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A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Ill with what? Covid or something directly from the vaccine?
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Blimey! Do you happen to know how many people in the first few weeks had serious reactions to the jabs? I heard on here in the 'Vaccine, BS' thread that it was 5500. But that hasn't been confirmed despite repeated requests. That's the sort of thing that would be helpful to know so I can share it.
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Over 1 million mark so far - Pfizer Covid jabs reached today. Another 500,000 scheduled on Monday using the Oxford vaccine plus more Pfizer Jabs - well on the way to completing Phase 1.
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Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:30 pm
Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Ill with what? Covid or something directly from the vaccine?
Don’t know they are trying to work it out. Is it a reaction to the vaccine? Is it covid brought on by the vaccine? It’s serious though.
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:39 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:30 pm
Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Ill with what? Covid or something directly from the vaccine?
Don’t know they are trying to work it out. Is it a reaction to the vaccine? Is it covid brought on by the vaccine? It’s serious though.
Or just Covid they got? Perhaps when getting the vaccine?
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:39 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:30 pm
Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Ill with what? Covid or something directly from the vaccine?
Don’t know they are trying to work it out. Is it a reaction to the vaccine? Is it covid brought on by the vaccine? It’s serious though.
Or something completely unrelated?
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Top of the JES wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:38 pm Over 1 million mark so far - Pfizer Covid jabs reached today. Another 500,000 scheduled on Monday using the Oxford vaccine plus more Pfizer Jabs - well on the way to completing Phase 1.
What do you mean 500,000 scheduled on Monday?
I read we only have stock of 500k jabs total at the moment, are you saying they'll administer them all in a day?
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:20 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:38 pm Over 1 million mark so far - Pfizer Covid jabs reached today. Another 500,000 scheduled on Monday using the Oxford vaccine plus more Pfizer Jabs - well on the way to completing Phase 1.
What do you mean 500,000 scheduled on Monday?
I read we only have stock of 500k jabs total at the moment, are you saying they'll administer them all in a day?
From Monday 500,000 Oxford Jabs available. They are obviously not going to do them all on one day are they. but we are all allowed a typo from time to time.
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A Retired GP friend has given up trying to become a volunteer after getting to about halfway through 20 odd forms to fill in. Started asking her about diversity and fire training! Then she has to watch things on line. She has been giving jabs all her working life.

Few months ago nobody really knew anyone with Covid , last 7 days. My daughter has it , three friends are in Whipps or King George’s with it and heard of 6 other people I know. Getting far more prevalent.
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PoliticOs wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:32 pm
Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Blimey! Do you happen to know how many people in the first few weeks had serious reactions to the jabs? I heard on here in the 'Vaccine, BS' thread that it was 5500. But that hasn't been confirmed despite repeated requests. That's the sort of thing that would be helpful to know so I can share it.
Ive been trying to find figures to show how many have had a bad reaction, but these figures dont seem available.
The government wants as many of us vaccinated as possible, so they are going to suppress any information that might stop people taking up the vaccine
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:39 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:30 pm
Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Ill with what? Covid or something directly from the vaccine?
Don’t know they are trying to work it out. Is it a reaction to the vaccine? Is it covid brought on by the vaccine? It’s serious though.
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ComeOnYouOs wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:46 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:32 pm
Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Blimey! Do you happen to know how many people in the first few weeks had serious reactions to the jabs? I heard on here in the 'Vaccine, BS' thread that it was 5500. But that hasn't been confirmed despite repeated requests. That's the sort of thing that would be helpful to know so I can share it.
Ive been trying to find figures to show how many have had a bad reaction, but these figures dont seem available.
The government wants as many of us vaccinated as possible, so they are going to suppress any information that might stop people taking up the vaccine
It was 5500 in the first week or two apparently. Serious reactions. Confirmed by Thor, and said originally by the CDC. He has the original information somewhere, if you ask him for it. He's just about to go and get it.
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tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:05 pm
Thor wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:03 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:54 pm

The uk wont be giving pfizer vaccine 12 weeks apart

Do keep up Agent Thorson
According to the government, the regulatory body and the vaccine maker themselves the intention is to give the 2 doses 12 weeks apart.

I can see why they have pressed the regulatory body to approve their plan as it will allow more people to get 1 shot than a smaller number have both.

The question remains will it work? Pfizer says their vaccine does not work like that, Oxford have not said anything yet, but previously they did say they found that the first shot was 60% effective however when the 2nd dose is added 2 weeks later it raised it to 90% which they then moved up to 95% on what basis who knows.
That 12 week period is for the Oxford Vaccine thorby
Wring again tuffers.

Letter from Sir Simon Stevens

Click the pdf further down its all confirmed there. Let me guess you will.still argue you're right even when it is in black and white.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/ ... te-action/
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:39 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:30 pm
Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:27 pm A builder who lives around the corner to me both his parents are in their early 80’s both healthy other than age. Both had covid jabs and after two days they went downhill rapidly, both are now in hospital seriously ill. I hope they both recover, but it’s chilling when you hear this first hand.
Ill with what? Covid or something directly from the vaccine?
Don’t know they are trying to work it out. Is it a reaction to the vaccine? Is it covid brought on by the vaccine? It’s serious though.
Yeah. Covid is brought on by the vaccine. You're best off not taking it.
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Graph- So they're having to find 20k+ spare beds

Vaccine- takes a few weeks to have effect I believe
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:44 pm
None of the drug companies have claimed 100% protection for their vaccines, particularly if the second dose is yet to be taken.

Statistically there are bound to be people who have the vaccine and still get covid (as the replies to the tweet also point out), as there will be people who have the vaccine and die within a few days of having it.

Nothing to be concerned about.
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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:44 pm
As has been stated Thorby
Protection wont be effective for nearly 2 weeks almost .

Obviously had the virus before vaccination as was stated yesterday
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... -work.html


CDC clearly states vaccines take time

Its why hovernments now want to
Get as many people vaccinated with some form
Of protection than just some

3 weeks for 1 may not save lots of lives
1 part vaccine could !
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It’s uneducated nuts like Thor that make the genuine questions and concerns normal people might have seem less and less legit.

If you don’t understand why under unprecedented lockdown and social distancing, there might be less people getting things like flu that fill up beds in a normal year then give up now.
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Apple read this, it's a very good article.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851
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Politicsos or Max here is what you asked for



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Thor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:24 pm Apple read this, it's a very good article.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851
Will give it a read tomorrow.

I’m not saying you are wrong with being skeptic all, especially about this vaccine. But it invalidates your good points when you post other random sh*t that can be debunked with 5 seconds of consideration.
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