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Gary's Big Brother wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:16 pm

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:27 pm How the hell are Labour not 20 points ahead of this shitshow of a Government?

This is this thing you do about asking questions you know the answer to isn't it?

Is the answer because the Labour guy is totally useless and devoid of all policies and charisma. I bet you will still vote for him I doubt you will go back to the Lib Dems as they are way too left wing for somebody your age.

I’ll probably just spoil my ballot paper again by smearing it with my own excrement.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:46 pm Tory MPs already on the radios saying it isn't technically a criminal offence and is just like a speeding fine.

Oh and Ukraine is more important

You disagree?

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:59 pm Truss still available at 6/1 to be next leader

Decent price

No chance

She's at it again.

I just cannot believe that the w*nk and bile of the conservative party are rallying around these two gobshites.
I've always despised the Tories for what they stand for, the well off industries and firms like the oil companies
and American firms like Amazon and the various coffee shop chains not paying their full whack of taxes. There is
no honour or accountability in politics anymore. Such a shame.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:00 am She's at it again.

What's even funnier is I bet we're paying for that photo shoot.

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:25 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:00 am She's at it again.

What's even funnier is I bet we're paying for that photo shoot.

Even more than mildly amusing we probably paid for the jack boots too.

hi

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:41 am

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:25 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:00 am She's at it again.

What's even funnier is I bet we're paying for that photo shoot.

Even more than mildly amusing we probably paid for the jack boots too.

Is it acceptable to be a lefty misogynist here now?

Well said Stew

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:06 pm Well said Stew

Politics moving from the gutter to the sewer. Where next?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:09 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:06 pm Well said Stew

Politics moving from the gutter to the sewer. Where next?

Into the already polluted rivers of the privatised water system that you drink and then out to sea to poison the fish that you eat.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:18 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:09 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:06 pm Well said Stew

Politics moving from the gutter to the sewer. Where next?

Into the already polluted rivers of the privatised water system that you drink and then out to sea to poison the fish that you eat.

In older times people drank beer because the water was so polluted. Maybe an old tradition worth reviving.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:37 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:46 pm Tory MPs already on the radios saying it isn't technically a criminal offence and is just like a speeding fine.

Oh and Ukraine is more important

You disagree?

Quite clearly, yes

A little bit of perspective is required here.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:55 pm If Sunak resigns, and says" as an honourable man, I felt it was the right thing to resign" etc etc, that would put tremendous pressure on Johnson to also resign

No it wouldn't. The Country knows he's not an honourable man, he knows he's not an honourable man, so why on Earth would he do "the honourable thing and resign".

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:25 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:37 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:46 pm Tory MPs already on the radios saying it isn't technically a criminal offence and is just like a speeding fine.

Oh and Ukraine is more important

You disagree?

Quite clearly, yes

Which bit.

The fine not being a criminal offence. I didn’t think it was to be honest. Any legal people on here?
Ukraine not being more important. In my opinion it is.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:06 pm Well said Stew

Despicable from the Tories, let's hope SNP leaders and MPs don't stoop so low as to bring the Ukraine situation into their arguments for an independance referendum and Stew can maintain the moral high ground.

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:02 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:06 pm Well said Stew

Despicable from the Tories, let's hope SNP leaders and MPs don't stoop so low as to bring the Ukraine situation into their arguments for an independance referendum and Stew can maintain the moral high ground.

Classic whataboutery. Well done.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:51 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:25 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:37 am

You disagree?

Quite clearly, yes

Which bit.

The fine not being a criminal offence. I didn’t think it was to be honest. Any legal people on here?
Ukraine not being more important. In my opinion it is.

I'm no lawyer but neither am I an IMBECILE.


It's a criminal offence where the offender has chosen to admit his guilt and pay a fine without the need for disposal in court. HTH

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:21 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:02 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:06 pm Well said Stew

Despicable from the Tories, let's hope SNP leaders and MPs don't stoop so low as to bring the Ukraine situation into their arguments for an independance referendum and Stew can maintain the moral high ground.

Classic whataboutery. Well done.

Classic hypocrisy more like, not to mention him doing the exact same thing he is so outraged about.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:24 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:51 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:25 pm

Quite clearly, yes

Which bit.

The fine not being a criminal offence. I didn’t think it was to be honest. Any legal people on here?
Ukraine not being more important. In my opinion it is.

I'm no lawyer but neither am I an IMBECILE.


It's a criminal offence where the offender has chosen to admit his guilt and pay a fine without the need for disposal in court. HTH

So, when I got fined for speeding I have a criminal record? Didn’t know that. Being worried about that, speeding is not a criminal offence. Despite me pleading guilty, paying a fine and getting three points. The above definition is therefore wrong.

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:29 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:21 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:02 pm

Despicable from the Tories, let's hope SNP leaders and MPs don't stoop so low as to bring the Ukraine situation into their arguments for an independance referendum and Stew can maintain the moral high ground.

Classic whataboutery. Well done.

Classic hypocrisy more like, not to mention him doing the exact same thing he is so outraged about.

Where and when?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:30 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:24 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:51 pm


Which bit.

The fine not being a criminal offence. I didn’t think it was to be honest. Any legal people on here?
Ukraine not being more important. In my opinion it is.

I'm no lawyer but neither am I an IMBECILE.


It's a criminal offence where the offender has chosen to admit his guilt and pay a fine without the need for disposal in court. HTH

So, when I got fined for speeding I have a criminal record? Didn’t know that. Being worried about that, speeding is not a criminal offence. Despite me pleading guilty, paying a fine and getting three points. The above definition is therefore wrong.

Just looked it up. Covid fixed penalty fines do not carry a criminal record.