Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Oiram wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:51 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:38 pm What should be done with school kids?

Good question but if they are spreading virus and now susceptible to this new mutated version they may need to isolate to stop infection. The parents will be first to protest if they were infected due to inaction by HM Govt.

As a substantial amount of people will not be working then they can parent their children and the imminent holidays is a convenient time. No easy answer to this as the Govt. are damned if the do or do not.

Hopefully extra financial support will be provided to those who need it and not the wealthy who I personally have been aware of applying for loans and grants they brazenly admit to not needing but ‘like to have it in the bank as I’m entitled to it’. I have told them what I think of their attitude in no uncertain terms.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:54 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:51 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:38 pm What should be done with school kids?

Good question but if they are spreading virus and now susceptible to this new mutated version they may need to isolate to stop infection. The parents will be first to protest if they were infected due to inaction by HM Govt.

As a substantial amount of people will not be working then they can parent their children and the imminent holidays is a convenient time. No easy answer to this as the Govt. are damned if the do or do not.

Hopefully extra financial support will be provided to those who need it and not the wealthy who I personally have been aware of applying for loans and grants they brazenly admit to not needing but ‘like to have it in the bank as I’m entitled to it’. I have told them what I think of their attitude in no uncertain terms.

Oiram it wont be the parents complaining first it will be the teachers I imagine.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:54 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:51 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:38 pm What should be done with school kids?

Good question but if they are spreading virus and now susceptible to this new mutated version they may need to isolate to stop infection. The parents will be first to protest if they were infected due to inaction by HM Govt.

As a substantial amount of people will not be working then they can parent their children and the imminent holidays is a convenient time. No easy answer to this as the Govt. are damned if the do or do not.

Hopefully extra financial support will be provided to those who need it and not the wealthy who I personally have been aware of applying for loans and grants they brazenly admit to not needing but ‘like to have it in the bank as I’m entitled to it’. I have told them what I think of their attitude in no uncertain terms.

Oiram it wont be the parents complaining first it will be the teachers I imagine.

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:30 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:05 pm I wish the doctor/scientist on covid
Who wore the O's top on bbc brekfast
Was on here .

Was he carrying a Palestine flag in one hand and a copy of David Irving in the other?

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:13 am
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8. But, a big question is; if this is the appropriate response, then why has the government not imposed Tier 4 across the whole country? The new strain will have almost certainly seeded elsewhere already, so this is a decision that will impact on NHS services in coming weeks and affect lives.

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Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:28 am Even if we accept that, up until now, the Government has been "guided by the science",

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:34 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:28 am Even if we accept that, up until now, the Government has been "guided by the science",

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:34 am That reminds me, I need to go and count my rent.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:25 pm Cases up 57% in a week.

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:18 pm Just looking at todays figures the percentage of testing positive is 8.9175%

The number of tests in hospitals is not shown, so impossible to know true figures. The other issue is the type of test used. The lateral flow is supposed to be around normal false positive figures of 2.8%, while PRC is around 18%. If only PRC are used then the current figures are not statistically significant (although they were in April).

The other issue is new variants these are normally weaker, but the issue is whether lockdowns actually make it stronger. As with all parts of this experiment we are going through nobody will know the answer for a considerable amount of time.

I have also looked at death figures. From 1979 to 2014, the rate of death has considerably reduced down to 9.004 per thousand. In 2019 the number of deaths was lower than expected but was still at 9.386 per thousand. This year before cv19 the figure was expected to be around 9.413 and continuing to increase as throughout the next 50 years. The reason for this decline is that average age of dying has been constantly rising from 68 in 1950 to 82 now. This also explains the pension issues. So for a male having a pension has moved from 3 years to 16 for example.