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ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:08 pm Trumps meltdown now, is hilarious, as he knows he's lost.
Next stop for Trump, court, then jail. ( apparently, there's lots of charges waiting for him in just New York)

Really ? what charges are those ?

Most drawn out ending to a show since Game of Thrones.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:22 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:08 pm Trumps meltdown now, is hilarious, as he knows he's lost.
Next stop for Trump, court, then jail. ( apparently, there's lots of charges waiting for him in just New York)

Really ? what charges are those ?

Cases are being progressed for tax, bank and insurance fraud. It'll be interesting to see what happens to his finances as well, if he does lose this election you can bet he will be flogging his 'brand' like nobodies business as that's the only thing he's ever made actual money from.

He’s adamant he’s paid millions in tax and details will be released shortly. The Democrats have thrown the kitchen sink at him for four years and he’s still standing. If he really was guilty of tax evasion he would have been out of office long before now .

Nah - being sitting POTUS greatly protects Trump from charges. But my guess is Biden (if he gets over the line and the MAGAZINE types stop counting where we’re ahead/keep counting where we’re behind fraud nonsense gets no traction in State/Federal Courts, of course) will be a consensus guy and not look to stir the pot or be vindictive here.

slacker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:57 pm Nah - being sitting POTUS greatly protects Trump from charges. But my guess is Biden (if he gets over the line and the MAGAZINE types stop counting where we’re ahead/keep counting where we’re behind fraud nonsense gets no traction in State/Federal Courts, of course) will be a consensus guy and not look to stir the pot or be vindictive here.

Do you think he'll pardon Trump ? Biden himself might not want to be vindictive, but I read somewhere that New York have some pretty serious bank fraud charges against Trump that they're itching to get him on, and Gov Cuomo is very vindictive.

I wouldn't put it past Trump to try to give himself a pardon in advance!

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:24 pm Why are postal votes mostly democrat? Would honestly like to know.

I30,000 ballots turned up at a polling station in a white van at 4am . Apparently every single ballot was for Joe Biden. Now, I can accept the majority was for Biden but 100% ? That doesn’t sound right to me .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:25 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:24 pm Why are postal votes mostly democrat? Would honestly like to know.

I30,000 ballots turned up at a polling station in a white van at 4am . Apparently every single ballot was for Joe Biden. Now, I can accept the majority was for Biden but 100% ? That doesn’t sound right to me .

Source?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:25 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:24 pm Why are postal votes mostly democrat? Would honestly like to know.

I30,000 ballots turned up at a polling station in a white van at 4am . Apparently every single ballot was for Joe Biden. Now, I can accept the majority was for Biden but 100% ? That doesn’t sound right to me .

1. Why would we know 130,000 ballots (all with Biden on) were in said van?
2. Of course it doesn't sound right, it isn't.

Here is the guy that originally posted it and here he is apologising for the fact the truth was...a typo. That's it. That's the corruption.

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:14 pm

slacker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:57 pm Nah - being sitting POTUS greatly protects Trump from charges. But my guess is Biden (if he gets over the line and the MAGAZINE types stop counting where we’re ahead/keep counting where we’re behind fraud nonsense gets no traction in State/Federal Courts, of course) will be a consensus guy and not look to stir the pot or be vindictive here.

Do you think he'll pardon Trump ? Biden himself might not want to be vindictive, but I read somewhere that New York have some pretty serious bank fraud charges against Trump that they're itching to get him on, and Gov Cuomo is very vindictive.

I wouldn't put it past Trump to try to give himself a pardon in advance!

No. Gerald Ford put his 1976 defeat down to him pardoning Nixon two years earlier, and they were in the same party.

I’ve just been reading what people are saying on Twitter. People are saying there was more votes in Wisconsin than voters ? . I can’t believe that’s true or is it ? It does seem like there’s been massive voter fraud going on.

It's not true. You've just been reading what liars are saying - many of them tweeting out of Moscow, no doubt. Wisconsin has 3.6 M voters NOT 3.1M - it's a lie, that's been debunked constantly since it was made yesterday, but that doesn't stop people "just reading what people are saying" and repeating the lie over and over again.

Making yourself look rather biased and VERY credulous, Dwarfy.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:36 pm I’ve just been reading what people are saying on Twitter. People are saying there was more votes in Wisconsin than voters ? . I can’t believe that’s true or is it ? It does seem like there’s been massive voter fraud going on.

Nope, that's also incorrect and another Twitter rumour.

Here are two fact checks for you;

https://in.reuters.com/article/uk-factc ... SKBN27K2WU

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wisco ... an-voters/


Again, it was a false tweet, since deleted. Again, a lie travels around the world before the truth can put its shoes on.

And this is EXACTLY how Trump picked up the votes and voters he has, not despite his lying, but because of.

Just for a second, consider that IF massive voter fraud were possible - why wouldn't the GOP engage in it ?

Yep. It would mean, for it to work, lots and lots and lots and lots of people would have to be Democrat to pull it off. Nearly everyone.

So if that were true and nearly everyone over there is a Democrat, why not just...vote Democrat?!

In 2016, Trump won PA, WI & MI by a whisker, and the electoral system was just fine. Now he's losing those three states by a whisker, the electoral system is cheating, and it's fraudulent
The mans a f*cking clown

What’s troubling is so is Joe Biden

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:43 pm Yep. It would mean, for it to work, lots and lots and lots and lots of people would have to be Democrat to pull it off. Nearly everyone.

So if that were true and nearly everyone over there is a Democrat, why not just...vote Democrat?!

If in Possession of multiple ballots, going by that example one person can’t fill out 50 ballot papers , you need 50 people to fill out one each

Biden’s just a careerist politician from the centre, who’ll be restricted by a GOP senate and 6-3 conservative SCOTUS anyway. I’m not a big fan, but he’s probably the type that’s needed for the US (and most of the RotW, other than a few despots) after the last 4 divisive years.

Amazing how those little fibs about vote fraud keep getting repeated well after the source has been debunked. Maybe they’re saying what you want to believe, RDwarf, but you really need to take a breath and look for reliable confirmation before repeating them.

I’m only the messenger. I’m simply relying what I’ve read and heard. Only the people on the ground knows whether it’s ultimately true or not.

Are you not concerned though about the rumours (and evidence) of Trump PAYING people in North Carolina to not vote Biden? That is zero concern to you?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:34 pm I’m only the messenger. I’m simply relying what I’ve read and heard. Only the people on the ground knows whether it’s ultimately true or not.

The explanation is in the Snopes link above.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:34 pm I’m only the messenger. I’m simply relying what I’ve read and heard. Only the people on the ground knows whether it’s ultimately true or not.

That's such a cop out. You're the messenger of information that suits your narrative. It's not difficult to fact check things, but you know that already.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:45 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:23 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:21 pm When Biden officially wins , and he will shortly going by all the postal voting shenanigans that are currently going on , form my point of view the worse that can happen to this country is we won't get a trade deal with the US . I'm just really thankful I don't live in America because I think what's coming for them is going to be far, far worse .

What do you think is coming for them?

Major unrest with more street violence. I just don't think Biden and Harris are going to keep things together over there. Anyway we'll soon see.

Baring a full on civil war they can't do any worse than the incumbents