Re: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:46 am
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RelentlessGary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:35 am That is a sensational piece of writing.
Wasting that on the 6 of us on here only adds to its incredibleness.
what a load of old tosh !Flying Hippo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:05 am Oh dear - as is so often the case.
Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's arrest, conviction, incarceration and subsequent treatment is entirely due to the actions of the Iranian state. Nevertheless, the F&CO and HM's Government appear to be the main target of criticism, ejaculated at Boris, risibly, dementedly and hilariously, by some in the posts above.
Why is this always the case? Why is there such a loud and relentless group of you who will take every opportunity to take the side of anyone or anything against your own state? Even Iran?
Mrs Z-R's own comments criticizing the F&CO were interesting in themselves. She avoided any overt criticism of the Iranian regime, which, of course, was the party responsible for her predicament and, of itself, a genuinely theocratically totalitarian regime. But her greater, but still relatively mild, criticism of the Foreign Office and there some of you go, like a dog to a whistle - while the rest of us bristle about that although she seemed quite pleasing to the eye, she was rude and ungrateful. Surely she must have been up to something out there or just pushed her luck too far? She's clearly a leftie anyway.
Iranian Intelligence contains some people who are smarter than some of you and it is a certainty that Mrs Z-R was suitably "prepared" for her release, particularly with regard to handling the media. Remember, she has very close connections with people still in Iran whose wellbeing is at the discretion of the Iranian regime.
Imprecisely but for ease of reference, let's refer to those of you who are led and act as an electronic pack as - "Remainers". You constitute a tiresome but awkward alliance of: the emotionally damaged and permanently aggrieved; the middle-class (what the Chinese refer to as) baizuo; proper old-school lefties (prepared to overlook their own genuine concerns about the EU in pursuit of a greater objective never to be achieved at the ballot box), and, their prey, alas, the indoctrinated young. (Mustn't forget the Shinners - those excusers of child murderers and abusers. The taxpayer-funded, imaginary oppression specialists who cling like a tartle to the little hairs in the anus of the Left.)
You are an extremely malleable group but admirably resolute and tireless in your pursuit of destroying your own society, impervious to being plain wrong on almost everything, time and time again. You believe you are on the side of the angels: non-denominational, gender-neutral, any colour but white (obviously), sumac-sprinkled angels (probably the angels of choice for the Anglican church, the world's first atheistic, suicide-cult of a religion). But in reality most of you misunderstand, wilfully avoid or just lack objectivity, morality, consideration of other perspectives (or indeed that there are any such worthy) and intellectual rigour. Yours is just a simple, lazy and ugly philosophy of destruction.
When you see Johnson weeping in a limo as he leaves No. 10 for the last time/has his head paraded on a spike, some of you may discover that the euphoria you expected to feel is fleeting and that the pleasure or satisfaction you anticipated is tempered with a sense of looming dread.
Many of you have not had children, which is the clearest indication throughout history of a dying society, exacerbated in this instance, by a crazed enthusiasm for abortion (the state-sanctioned, even encouraged, poisoning and/or slicing up of unborn children).
For those of you who have managed to summon up sufficient energy to procreate, it is quite likely that your children's lives will be harder, poorer, more brutal, more unfair, much more dangerous and worse than anything you have ever experienced and, possibly, far, far worse than anything you could have ever imagined. And the irony will be that some of you will realise - far, far too late, of course - that every on-line bleat and whine about buses, Eton and cake has just helped nudge your own society a little towards its own destruction - the most liberal, tolerant, fair, prosperous, meritocratic and successful society in history. The society your children live in will be none of those things.
Drugs are bad. Just say “No!”Flying Hippo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:05 am Oh dear - as is so often the case.
Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's arrest, conviction, incarceration and subsequent treatment is entirely due to the actions of the Iranian state. Nevertheless, the F&CO and HM's Government appear to be the main target of criticism, ejaculated at Boris, risibly, dementedly and hilariously, by some in the posts above.
Why is this always the case? Why is there such a loud and relentless group of you who will take every opportunity to take the side of anyone or anything against your own state? Even Iran?
Mrs Z-R's own comments criticizing the F&CO were interesting in themselves. She avoided any overt criticism of the Iranian regime, which, of course, was the party responsible for her predicament and, of itself, a genuinely theocratically totalitarian regime. But her greater, but still relatively mild, criticism of the Foreign Office and there some of you go, like a dog to a whistle - while the rest of us bristle about that although she seemed quite pleasing to the eye, she was rude and ungrateful. Surely she must have been up to something out there or just pushed her luck too far? She's clearly a leftie anyway.
Iranian Intelligence contains some people who are smarter than some of you and it is a certainty that Mrs Z-R was suitably "prepared" for her release, particularly with regard to handling the media. Remember, she has very close connections with people still in Iran whose wellbeing is at the discretion of the Iranian regime.
Imprecisely but for ease of reference, let's refer to those of you who are led and act as an electronic pack as - "Remainers". You constitute a tiresome but awkward alliance of: the emotionally damaged and permanently aggrieved; the middle-class (what the Chinese refer to as) baizuo; proper old-school lefties (prepared to overlook their own genuine concerns about the EU in pursuit of a greater objective never to be achieved at the ballot box), and, their prey, alas, the indoctrinated young. (Mustn't forget the Shinners - those excusers of child murderers and abusers. The taxpayer-funded, imaginary oppression specialists who cling like a tartle to the little hairs in the anus of the Left.)
You are an extremely malleable group but admirably resolute and tireless in your pursuit of destroying your own society, impervious to being plain wrong on almost everything, time and time again. You believe you are on the side of the angels: non-denominational, gender-neutral, any colour but white (obviously), sumac-sprinkled angels (probably the angels of choice for the Anglican church, the world's first atheistic, suicide-cult of a religion). But in reality most of you misunderstand, wilfully avoid or just lack objectivity, morality, consideration of other perspectives (or indeed that there are any such worthy) and intellectual rigour. Yours is just a simple, lazy and ugly philosophy of destruction.
When you see Johnson weeping in a limo as he leaves No. 10 for the last time/has his head paraded on a spike, some of you may discover that the euphoria you expected to feel is fleeting and that the pleasure or satisfaction you anticipated is tempered with a sense of looming dread.
Many of you have not had children, which is the clearest indication throughout history of a dying society, exacerbated in this instance, by a crazed enthusiasm for abortion (the state-sanctioned, even encouraged, poisoning and/or slicing up of unborn children).
For those of you who have managed to summon up sufficient energy to procreate, it is quite likely that your children's lives will be harder, poorer, more brutal, more unfair, much more dangerous and worse than anything you have ever experienced and, possibly, far, far worse than anything you could have ever imagined. And the irony will be that some of you will realise - far, far too late, of course - that every on-line bleat and whine about buses, Eton and cake has just helped nudge your own society a little towards its own destruction - the most liberal, tolerant, fair, prosperous, meritocratic and successful society in history. The society your children live in will be none of those things.
Not so sure about the children's future etc, but a lot of truth in this, nevertheless. I like hearing the truth.Flying Hippo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:05 am Oh dear - as is so often the case.
Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's arrest, conviction, incarceration and subsequent treatment is entirely due to the actions of the Iranian state. Nevertheless, the F&CO and HM's Government appear to be the main target of criticism, ejaculated at Boris, risibly, dementedly and hilariously, by some in the posts above.
Why is this always the case? Why is there such a loud and relentless group of you who will take every opportunity to take the side of anyone or anything against your own state? Even Iran?
Mrs Z-R's own comments criticizing the F&CO were interesting in themselves. She avoided any overt criticism of the Iranian regime, which, of course, was the party responsible for her predicament and, of itself, a genuinely theocratically totalitarian regime. But her greater, but still relatively mild, criticism of the Foreign Office and there some of you go, like a dog to a whistle - while the rest of us bristle about that although she seemed quite pleasing to the eye, she was rude and ungrateful. Surely she must have been up to something out there or just pushed her luck too far? She's clearly a leftie anyway.
Iranian Intelligence contains some people who are smarter than some of you and it is a certainty that Mrs Z-R was suitably "prepared" for her release, particularly with regard to handling the media. Remember, she has very close connections with people still in Iran whose wellbeing is at the discretion of the Iranian regime.
Imprecisely but for ease of reference, let's refer to those of you who are led and act as an electronic pack as - "Remainers". You constitute a tiresome but awkward alliance of: the emotionally damaged and permanently aggrieved; the middle-class (what the Chinese refer to as) baizuo; proper old-school lefties (prepared to overlook their own genuine concerns about the EU in pursuit of a greater objective never to be achieved at the ballot box), and, their prey, alas, the indoctrinated young. (Mustn't forget the Shinners - those excusers of child murderers and abusers. The taxpayer-funded, imaginary oppression specialists who cling like a tartle to the little hairs in the anus of the Left.)
You are an extremely malleable group but admirably resolute and tireless in your pursuit of destroying your own society, impervious to being plain wrong on almost everything, time and time again. You believe you are on the side of the angels: non-denominational, gender-neutral, any colour but white (obviously), sumac-sprinkled angels (probably the angels of choice for the Anglican church, the world's first atheistic, suicide-cult of a religion). But in reality most of you misunderstand, wilfully avoid or just lack objectivity, morality, consideration of other perspectives (or indeed that there are any such worthy) and intellectual rigour. Yours is just a simple, lazy and ugly philosophy of destruction.
When you see Johnson weeping in a limo as he leaves No. 10 for the last time/has his head paraded on a spike, some of you may discover that the euphoria you expected to feel is fleeting and that the pleasure or satisfaction you anticipated is tempered with a sense of looming dread.
Many of you have not had children, which is the clearest indication throughout history of a dying society, exacerbated in this instance, by a crazed enthusiasm for abortion (the state-sanctioned, even encouraged, poisoning and/or slicing up of unborn children).
For those of you who have managed to summon up sufficient energy to procreate, it is quite likely that your children's lives will be harder, poorer, more brutal, more unfair, much more dangerous and worse than anything you have ever experienced and, possibly, far, far worse than anything you could have ever imagined. And the irony will be that some of you will realise - far, far too late, of course - that every on-line bleat and whine about buses, Eton and cake has just helped nudge your own society a little towards its own destruction - the most liberal, tolerant, fair, prosperous, meritocratic and successful society in history. The society your children live in will be none of those things.
Giuseppe Conlon was a Jailbird .
So you have proof she was a spy ?
Innocent until proven guilty in aMax B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 8:35 pmDo you have proof she wasn't?
Not really.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 8:49 pmInnocent until proven guilty in a
Court of law tried by the public
Means the defendant doesnt have
to prove a case of Innocence .
Ball is firmly back in your part of the
Court wee laddie
Yet he died in prison because he was set up by the powers that be & was portrayed as something different . The gullable population still fall for media suggestion ! Innocence now needs to be proved to the Gullable . I Expect more from a self proclaimed LEGEND .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:47 pmNot really.
You're not even asking the right questions.
Giuseppe was innocent.
We weren't even talking about Giuseppe until you crowbarred it into the thread as some sort of deflection from the British spy who went to jail in Iran.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 2:42 amYet he died in prison because he was set up by the powers that be & was portrayed as something different . The gullable population still fall for media suggestion ! Innocence now needs to be proved to the Gullable . I Expect more from a self proclaimed LEGEND .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:47 pmNot really.
You're not even asking the right questions.
Giuseppe was innocent.
Just showing you how propoganda really works . Still offering no proof she was a spy ?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 12:21 pmWe weren't even talking about Giuseppe until you crowbarred it into the thread as some sort of deflection from the British spy who went to jail in Iran.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 2:42 amYet he died in prison because he was set up by the powers that be & was portrayed as something different . The gullable population still fall for media suggestion ! Innocence now needs to be proved to the Gullable . I Expect more from a self proclaimed LEGEND .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:47 pm
Not really.
You're not even asking the right questions.
Giuseppe was innocent.
Btw, It's not just me who proclaims legendary status. I have at least two others I can rely on.
Heh. But the chief does have a point though. Given that this was a primetime slot on BBC1, it would have been pretty run-of-the-mill to ask a straightforward question, such as "Can you confirm that you are innocent of the allegations made of you by the Iranian regime?"
She seems very reluctant to present conclusive evidence that she wasn't up to something. Something fishy going on.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 1:47 pm Yeah, yeah, we all know about innocent before being proven guilty, but people also have their own personal opinions. And it's my opinion that this woman must have done something in some way shape or form subversive towards the Iranian government. If I was "completely" innocent, after spending 6years in jail I would never stop saying so when interviewed. I don't believe anyone would let it drop. But I never see this coming from her. For me, she was up to something...
Indeed , but our 3 resident spy catchers seem to think differently .
Was she not "proven guilty" in the Iranian courts?Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 1:47 pm Yeah, yeah, we all know about innocent before being proven guilty, but people also have their own personal opinions. ...