Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:54 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 pm I’d get rid of Ling first. The windows been our downfall really. But Kenny can’t be far behind unless there’s a dramatic change

I'd definitely like a forward thinking DoF, ideally someone who is analytically minded and more in touch with the modern game.

But that won't happen yet. So it's a case of do you want Ling involved in hiring the next manager now/near futurw or should we wait until the summer before we clear decks and a new DoF recruits the manager?

Yeah, fair point, and one i hadn't thought about. Of course, that is assuming there is a new DoF.

Ling has done his job of rebuilding us and getting us promoted, but i cant help think he has reached his limit as to where he can take us. Another failed manager appointment and an almost blank canvas to put a squad together in the summer, which has been an abject failure.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:07 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:54 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 pm I’d get rid of Ling first. The windows been our downfall really. But Kenny can’t be far behind unless there’s a dramatic change

I'd definitely like a forward thinking DoF, ideally someone who is analytically minded and more in touch with the modern game.

But that won't happen yet. So it's a case of do you want Ling involved in hiring the next manager now/near futurw or should we wait until the summer before we clear decks and a new DoF recruits the manager?

Yeah, fair point, and one i hadn't thought about. Of course, that is assuming there is a new DoF.

Ling has done his job of rebuilding us and getting us promoted, but i cant help think he has reached his limit as to where he can take us. Another failed manager appointment and an almost blank canvas to put a squad together in the summer, which has been an abject failure.

He reached that limit some time back. Agree he was there pick up the pieces after the mad one, but he can't keep dining out on that. Times move on, tactics change, old contacts become less useful.

He is without doubt part of this transfer committee, but no-one is expecting K&T to offer footballing opinions. Poor recruitment of players and now increasingly looking like poor recruitment of managers (bar one).

KJ needs to show us what all his experience is worth, but who is the common demoninator in all this?

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:46 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:35 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:31 pm

Tbh I'd rather have some of those senior pros from last season than what we've brought in during the window, which says all you need to know about decent recruitment

Really
You'd rather Sam Ling Josh Coulson & James Alabi
Over Drinan James & Smith ?

Deluded !!

Turley ahead of Moss
Widdowson ahead of... no-one seeing as Wood has been ousted
Wright / Freeman ahead of Kyprianou / Young / Coleman / Brown

And yes I know the first two are currently injured before you say it

Wright & Freeman- Are you having a laugh. They are garbage

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:35 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:31 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:27 pm

Ross wasn't allowed to thoroughly build his own squad
Which led to dreadful football with a non league squad & visit.

Again Kenny having 1 hand tied we are agreed

Tbh I'd rather have some of those senior pros from last season than what we've brought in during the window, which says all you need to know about decent recruitment

Really
You'd rather Sam Ling Josh Coulson & James Alabi
Over Drinan James & Smith ?

Deluded !!

He means this transfer window, although I expect you know that

Look people on here saying that we need to sack kenny we can’t keep sacking managers left right and centre we need to give the man time I would say fine kenny until end of feb at the start of march as remember that we have injuries to key players

faith1234 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:25 pm Look people on here saying that we need to sack kenny we can’t keep sacking managers left right and centre we need to give the man time I would say fine kenny until end of feb at the start of march as remember that we have injuries to key players

Injuries to key players is just an excuse for a deeper malaise.

Story of O wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:36 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:35 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:31 pm

Tbh I'd rather have some of those senior pros from last season than what we've brought in during the window, which says all you need to know about decent recruitment

Really
You'd rather Sam Ling Josh Coulson & James Alabi
Over Drinan James & Smith ?

Deluded !!

He means this transfer window, although I expect you know that

So do I

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:14 pm

faith1234 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:25 pm Look people on here saying that we need to sack kenny we can’t keep sacking managers left right and centre we need to give the man time I would say fine kenny until end of feb at the start of march as remember that we have injuries to key players

Injuries to key players is just an excuse for a deeper malaise.

Is this your sarcasm again
Or are you being a Tumshie ?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:20 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:14 pm

faith1234 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:25 pm Look people on here saying that we need to sack kenny we can’t keep sacking managers left right and centre we need to give the man time I would say fine kenny until end of feb at the start of march as remember that we have injuries to key players

Injuries to key players is just an excuse for a deeper malaise.

Is this your sarcasm again
Or are you being a Tumshie ?

Soz, I have been too heavily influenced by the deep negativity on here and decided to add a conspiratorial slant to it. I will try not to do it again.

Have you given any thought to what is causing the deep malaise ?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:02 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:20 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:14 pm

Injuries to key players is just an excuse for a deeper malaise.

Is this your sarcasm again
Or are you being a Tumshie ?

Soz, I have been too heavily influenced by the deep negativity on here and decided to add a conspiratorial slant to it. I will try not to do it again.

Have you given any thought to what is causing the deep malaise ?

Is that Scottish for bowling marmalade ?