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Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:30 pm
by gshaw
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:26 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:36 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:32 am
Exactly Winchester. We had a depleted squad but still fulfilled our fixture at Tranmere. We could only name four substitutes for that game.
More fool us
Yes, with hindsight it cost us but at least we are honest which is a commendable attribute . I'm glad we are like that then not.
Being honest and commendable doesn't get you the 3 points though. If Rovers come down with a stronger squad on the Tuesday and turn us over it's gamesmanship perfectly executed.
It's the off the field equivalent of a last man professional foul, clubs know the EFL are toothless so are playing the system to suit themselves. As SF has mentioned on posts above Rovers have played the game very sneakily to make it look legit up to this morning but likely knowing full well they were never going to play the game today.
Am I right in thinking since 2020 we're the only English club to have lost a game due to covid forfeiture?
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:35 pm
by The Big Shot
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:48 am
Was that Barton himself down to play?
The tweet is a piss take - Barton is the manager, Gorringe is their CEO, Al-Qadi is their owner and Anderton was apparently their only fit defender!!
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:39 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:30 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:26 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:36 am
More fool us
Yes, with hindsight it cost us but at least we are honest which is a commendable attribute . I'm glad we are like that then not.
Being honest and commendable doesn't get you the 3 points though. If Rovers come down with a stronger squad on the Tuesday and turn us over it's gamesmanship perfectly executed.
It's the off the field equivalent of a last man professional foul, clubs know the EFL are toothless so are playing the system to suit themselves. As SF has mentioned on posts above Rovers have played the game very sneakily to make it look legit up to this morning but likely knowing full well they were never going to play the game today.
Am I right in thinking since 2020 we're the only English club to have lost a game due to covid forfeiture?
I can't argue against that .You make your point really well and to answer your last point , probably .
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:41 pm
by tuffers#1
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:30 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:26 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:36 am
More fool us
Yes, with hindsight it cost us but at least we are honest which is a commendable attribute . I'm glad we are like that then not.
Being honest and commendable doesn't get you the 3 points though. If Rovers come down with a stronger squad on the Tuesday and turn us over it's gamesmanship perfectly executed.
It's the off the field equivalent of a last man professional foul, clubs know the EFL are toothless so are playing the system to suit themselves. As SF has mentioned on posts above Rovers have played the game very sneakily to make it look legit up to this morning but likely knowing full well they were never going to play the game today.
Am I right in thinking since 2020 we're the only English club to have lost a game due to covid forfeiture?
technically we didnt lose, Spuds got booted out of UEFA conference legu before xmas didnt they ?
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:49 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:54 pm
Omygawd wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:23 pm
This whole thing stinks and I may be being unfair but it has Barton’s stamp all over it. I have a significant journey each time I go to a home game and I have to find cover for domestic issues when I do. On the basis of the more positive messages that had been coming out over the last 2 days I made appropriate arrangements and left home to star my journey. I travel on my own, had to drive today given the lack of trains on a New Year’s Day, and had to go through a number of areas where this is no mobile signal. Phone pinged at 11.00 when I was already well on the way to the ground with this frustrating news. Time and money lost that I can’t recover.
From what I am reading this seems to have been a late and unilateral decision presumably taken by their manager/goalkeeper/sociopath. The EFL will deal with this as effectively as they always do (ie nothing) and I will for the coming weeks probably decide not to bother to consider attending given COVID uncertainty (ie the EFL not having the balls to stand up for fans). I understand that games will need to be called off but the new protocol of not testing on a Saturday was designed to give greater certainty. Friday at the latest has to be the norm. Sorry but it has been abused here and I am also now deciding whether to renew my Season Ticket given the shower of poo poo that manage our great game and their contempt for fans. Just another in the long line of things I have had to cancel in the last nearly 2 years. Keeping going is tough and the prospect of live football today was exciting but what do any of us fans count.
101% This.
I’m beginning to lose my enthusiasm as instances like this are just taking the piss out of good loyal fans of both Orient and Bristol Rovers. They obviously had no intention of playing the game today and leaving the decision so late will cost a lot of people a lot of money.
If they usually stay in a hotel for this fixture then why didn’t they today ??
Our wonderful supporters club have apparently donated the food that was to have been sold today from the bar to the local food bank and it’s gestures like this that are great
I'd like to second that . That's a wonderful gesture from our supporters club. I'm proud of them.
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:41 pm
by Story of O
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:46 pm
to stop others getting infected on a 2-3 hour coach trip ?
I take it you are answering "why did the coach leave?". If so, the answer makes no sense
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:44 pm
by tuffers#1
Story of O wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:41 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:46 pm
to stop others getting infected on a 2-3 hour coach trip ?
I take it you are answering "why did the coach leave?". If so, the answer makes no sense
Can you show me some science where covid symtoms only show up before a bus journey ?
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:49 pm
by Story of O
It was implied they had before getting on coach in the question
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:58 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Story of O wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:49 pm
It was implied they had before getting on coach in the question
Yep, the reason given what that some unspecified players had woken up this morning with Covid symptoms.
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:59 pm
by tuffers#1
and one can sumise something changed after they left .
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:05 pm
by Story of O
Not arguing with that. Anyway, even the Rovers fans think something is not quite right
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:09 pm
by tuffers#1
well footy fans arent known to be the brighest are they .
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:10 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
This directly from their CEO -
https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/20 ... postponed/
"Like many supporters, the squad met up this morning and began travelling on the coach to the game. However, some squad members woke up symptomatic this morning leaving us with ten outfield players and two goalkeepers available for selection."
So the chronology of this is the squad met up and started travelling and then some squad members woke up symptomatic this morning. That makes no sense at all. And since they knew they had asymptomatic players this morning they then wouldn't let them on the bus.
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:13 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Hope he covers our fans costs too.
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:15 pm
by tuffers#1
obviously had to speak to others which probably didnt happen untill the bus had left. got to make sure its all covered under covid rules !
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:17 pm
by tuffers#1
i can see a fraudulant clim being hatched
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:24 pm
by gshaw
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:41 pm
technically we didnt lose, Spuds got booted out of UEFA conference legu before xmas didnt they ?
Yeah true, we lost in as much as denied the chance to fulfill the fixture at a later date along with the revenue loss, experience for fans etc. The UEFA exit for them was a beautiful case of schadenfreude I must admit.
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:51 pm
by NavarinO
The whole thing is a complete farce, our promotion push finished when we lost at Tranmere, Jackett will probably leave to take up the "vacant" manager's job at Watford at the end of the season and it'll be back to square one for us.... again
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:11 am
by tuffers#1
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:15 am
by BIGRON
Be interesting to see if Rovers have a team to play at Peterborough inthe cup next weekend
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:57 am
by tuffers#1
only need 7 days if the new test are negative dont they with isolation ?
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:01 am
by aylesburyos
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:14 pm
by tuffers#1
aylesburyos wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:01 am
Kenny is a top manager
but he isnt in watfords plans .
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:01 pm
by PutneyO
Tuffers, with all due respect, you do talk a lot of rubbish
Re: Game OFF.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:03 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Earlier today, we shared the news of our postponement of our game with Bristol Rovers, a New Year’s Day clash we were all looking forward to.
We are of course disappointed with the postponement of the Bristol Rovers game, even more so by the late nature of the postponement.
We have been in contact with Bristol Rovers throughout the week regarding their reduced player availability, although we understood the fixture would still proceed in accordance with the EFL rules.
The Club expect the EFL to conduct a thorough investigation into the circumstances surrounding the postponement of today’s fixture.
Whilst there is of course so much that is taken out of our hands with the spread of the virus, there are things that can be done.
The postponements of fixtures are not helping sustainability of football, and more and more costs are incurred through the later postponements.
We need to do more as individual clubs, and collectively the EFL, to ensure rules around postponements change for the better.
In closing, we wish all our supporters a very happy new year and look forward to seeing many of you at Stoke City in the FA Cup on Sunday 9th.
Nigel Travis
Leyton Orient Chairman
