Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season

Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.

O Superman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:33 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season

Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.

I completely agree that anyone who refuses to have the vaccine after all that has happened is a bit dense.
However, what evidence do you have that the club / medical team hasn't had this conversation?
Assuming they have had the conversation (and my money would on them having done so), what can the club do to force players to have the vaccine?

As far as I know, there is no law that forces anyone, least of all footballers, to have a vaccine.
Technically, I don't think the medical staff are even allowed to say who has or hasn't due to confidentiality laws (may be wrong there).

O Superman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:33 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season

Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.

I completely agree that anyone who refuses to have the vaccine after all that has happened is a bit dense.
However, what evidence do you have that the club / medical team hasn't had this conversation?
Assuming they have had the conversation (and my money would on them having done so), what can the club do to force players to have the vaccine?

As far as I know, there is no law that forces anyone, least of all footballers, to have a vaccine.
Technically, I don't think the medical staff are even allowed to say who has or hasn't due to confidentiality laws (may be wrong there).

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:37 pm

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:57 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:43 am Who was actually missing with covid pings? Theo and ?

Theo, Mitchell and Beckles

Has that been confirmed or is that just guesswork?

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:34 pm Games already being called off for Boxing Day,
guessing the O’s will go again with a depleted
squad ....
Whilst others in our league have only to notify
the EFL that they can’t fulfil the fixture,
we fast track a long term injury back into the
squad and untried youngsters just to make a
squad of 15..

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:59 pm 6/12 games postponed - 5 days prior. League 2 taking the absolute piss!! Are these teams factoring in likely cases/self isolation??!!!!!

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:05 pm

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:34 pm Games already being called off for Boxing Day,
guessing the O’s will go again with a depleted
squad ....
Whilst others in our league have only to notify
the EFL that they can’t fulfil the fixture,
we fast track a long term injury back into the
squad and untried youngsters just to make a
squad of 15..

Don't be so stupid. There's more to it than just notifying the league that you cannot play and that's just accepted as the end of the matter

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:18 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:05 pm

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:34 pm Games already being called off for Boxing Day,
guessing the O’s will go again with a depleted
squad ....
Whilst others in our league have only to notify
the EFL that they can’t fulfil the fixture,
we fast track a long term injury back into the
squad and untried youngsters just to make a
squad of 15..

Don't be so stupid. There's more to it than just notifying the league that you cannot play and that's just accepted as the end of the matter

I might be stupid, but in the real world where
I live that seems to be what’s happening..

I’m awaiting all the hard luck stories in May
when we miss out on promotion or the play offs
by a point or 3points and the realisation hits home that maybe and it’s only a maybe that we
maybe didn’t have to play that Tranmere game ..

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:06 pm

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:18 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:05 pm

Don't be so stupid. There's more to it than just notifying the league that you cannot play and that's just accepted as the end of the matter

I might be stupid, but in the real world where
I live that seems to be what’s happening..

I’m awaiting all the hard luck stories in May
when we miss out on promotion or the play offs
by a point or 3points and the realisation hits home that maybe and it’s only a maybe that we
maybe didn’t have to play that Tranmere game ..

It's not what's happening. The teams calling off games will need to provide justification. The fact that other fixtures, including Orient's, are currently taking place shows that it's not just a case of a team deciding not to play because they don't fancy it.

to suit an argument

Lets get something straight I’m not starting an
argument, you’re the one calling me stupid and
biased .

I WILL pick out the Tranmere game should we
miss out on promotion or the play offs as opposed
to Port Vale game or the many points dropped
to last minute draws we had a strong starting 11
plus a strong bench ..

As opposed to the Tranmere game where we were
down to a bare 15 including in that were 2 keepers, 2 players who had never started a league game,
One youngster we had to recall from loan, no
right back and bringing back a striker back early
to make up the squad numbers ..

As I stated in my initial post all I’d like to know
from the club was, was any discussion made between the club and EFL over the possibility
of the game being postponed due to lack of
squad due to COVID..

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:08 pm

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:59 pm 6/12 games postponed - 5 days prior. League 2 taking the absolute piss!! Are these teams factoring in likely cases/self isolation??!!!!!

Think it through for a second. Unvaccinated players who are close contacts of those with Covid need to self isolate for 10 days. As do those with Covid. So where those are impacting on a club they obviously do know now whether they can fulfill a fixture in 5 days time.

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:36 pm Tranmere manage to get Saturday’s game called
off after contacting the EFL that they can’t fulfil
the fixture due to INJURIES and Covid..
Amazing what you can do these days if you make the relevant phone call

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm Clearly states on the Tranmere webpage,
“ we notified the EFL that we wouldn’t be
able to fulfil the fixture due to injuries and Covid”..

Why would I wish to look at it objectively??

Seems all it takes is a phone call and your
wish is granted, unless your Leyton Orient
and we’ll play the game with a bare bone
squad ..

Hawaii Five O wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:14 pm This thread makes my brain hurt. Are some people on here really complaining that we're not cheating?

Because that's what it is if a team is pretending to not be able to fulfill a fixture when they actualy can under the regulations.

(Not I think that it would be as easy to do as some folk are making out btw. But if it was, people would really want us to do that? To cheat?)

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:29 pm

Hawaii Five O wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:14 pm This thread makes my brain hurt. Are some people on here really complaining that we're not cheating?

Because that's what it is if a team is pretending to not be able to fulfill a fixture when they actualy can under the regulations.

(Not I think that it would be as easy to do as some folk are making out btw. But if it was, people would really want us to do that? To cheat?)

They are also pretending that a sodding 1-0 loss in the Wirral in December will define our season.