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Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:17 pm
by Sid Bishop
OyinbO wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:43 pm Southend to be given City status. That'll give a few Tory voters on here cognitive dissonance.
So a change of name perhaps to Southend City FC ?

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:34 pm
by Stowaway
OyinbO wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:43 pm Southend to be given City status. That'll give a few Tory voters on here cognitive dissonance.

They’ll need to build a cathedral first, which I suppose is more likely than Southend ever building a new stadium.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:44 pm
by A Pedant
Reposting this from the Tory Watch thread, since this now has its own topic.

He is (sadly now, was) MP for the next constituency along from me, some years ago he held a couple of tea parties in successive years to try and break a world record of the number of centenarians in one place. My Great Aunt was one of those, and when she died a couple of years later he took the time to come along to her stone setting. I've always remembered that, and how respectful he was at the cemetery. RIP.

EDIT - After looking it up, it transpires he carried on hosting those centenarian tea parties every year.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:47 pm
by Sid Bishop
Stowaway wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:34 pm
OyinbO wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:43 pm Southend to be given City status. That'll give a few Tory voters on here cognitive dissonance.

They’ll need to build a cathedral first, which I suppose is more likely than Southend ever building a new stadium.
Does a town need a cathedral to become a city?
City Status NO. All UK towns (through their local council) can apply to become a city, whether they have an Anglican cathedral or not. There are 18 cities without a cathedral and 13 towns which have an Anglican cathedral but do not have city status.
http://lovemytown.co.uk/citystatus/index.htm
Also.... How is Brighton a City without a Cathedral?
It’s a common myth that a city must have a cathedral in order to be a city. In fact, “city status” is conferred by the queen. It has nothing to do with whether a city has a cathedral or not. https://jollyexplorer.com/why-is-bright ... on-a-city/

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:52 pm
by A Pedant
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:17 pm So a change of name perhaps to Southend City FC ?
Unlikely, since they aren't Southend Town now.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:28 pm
by Sid Bishop
A Pedant wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:52 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:17 pm So a change of name perhaps to Southend City FC ?
Unlikely, since they aren't Southend Town now.
We shall see.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:27 pm
by Max B Gold
Remember when Corbyn said he wanted a less abusive way of doing politics. And the commentariat class ridiculed him for it, and then spent the next four years relentlessly abusing, smearing and insulting him.

Well now they're all saying they want a 'kinder, gentler politics'! Corbyn on the money as always.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:45 pm
by tuffers#1
Its good to see equal measure
after Batley & Spen received its City Status approved

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:43 am
by E10EU
Max B Gold wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:27 pm Remember when Corbyn said he wanted a less abusive way of doing politics. And the commentariat class ridiculed him for it, and then spent the next four years relentlessly abusing, smearing and insulting him.

Well now they're all saying they want a 'kinder, gentler politics'! Corbyn on the money as always.
So true!
Maybe Starmer will now show Corbyn the respect he deserves and re-instate him as Labour MP with big apologies ?

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:07 am
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:27 pm Remember when Corbyn said he wanted a less abusive way of doing politics. And the commentariat class ridiculed him for it, and then spent the next four years relentlessly abusing, smearing and insulting him.

Well now they're all saying they want a 'kinder, gentler politics'! Corbyn on the money as always.
Always.good to see Maxy on the ball .
😁

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:32 pm
by Max B Gold
Why did Boris not turn up tor the minutes silence? So disrespectful.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:03 pm
by Dunners
The police have confirmed that Ali Harbi Ali has been charged with murder of the and the preparation of other terrorist acts.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:14 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:03 pm The police have confirmed that Ali Harbi Ali has been charged with murder of the and the preparation of other terrorist acts.
What took them so long? Was it just down to the usual police inefficiency ?

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:17 pm
by Dunners
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:14 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:03 pm The police have confirmed that Ali Harbi Ali has been charged with murder of the and the preparation of other terrorist acts.
What took them so long? Was it just down to the usual police inefficiency ?
We should privatise them.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:45 am
by Ornchurch
Dunners wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:03 pm The police have confirmed that Ali Harbi Ali has been charged with murder of the and the preparation of other terrorist acts.
So good they named him twice.

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:27 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
So sadly predictable that the narrative since it started looking like it was Islamic terrorist linked has been to talk about other stuff like faceless nobs on Twitter

Had it been politically motivated in any other way the suspects background would be scrutinised and the debate would be about how to stop a reoccurrence

Seems it just gets pigeonholed in the "too complicated" box and there's a collective shrug

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:32 pm
by tuffers#1
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:27 pm So sadly predictable that the narrative since it started looking like it was Islamic terrorist linked has been to talk about other stuff like faceless nobs on Twitter

Had it been politically motivated in any other way the suspects background would be scrutinised and the debate would be about how to stop a reoccurrence

Seems it just gets pigeonholed in the "too complicated" box and there's a collective shrug
I thought you were talking about Joe Cox there for a minute
the making sure it doesnt happen again bit.

Then i saw the words Islamic terrorist &
Not English terrorist & realised you werent

Re: Tory MP Stabbed to Death At Southend

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:14 pm
by Dohnut
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:14 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:03 pm The police have confirmed that Ali Harbi Ali has been charged with murder of the and the preparation of other terrorist acts.
What took them so long? Was it just down to the usual police inefficiency ?
Better than him getting off in some technicality due to an investigative cockup. They had a given time frame. No need to panic, use the time available to do the best job they could. Not complex unless you are a simpleton. Oh, sorry, Hi Max, my mistake. 😂