Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:40 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:23 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:02 am
This is the plan, I’m convinced of it. I think Eagle/Nigel will keep 25% control in the club after the sale and remain on the board as a safeguard as and when that happens.

Maybe even one of these investors will be the one to buy it.

Yep, Championship then sell is my take as well. Why no one will say so though is baffling - I’d much rather that than fabricated tales of their soccer, sorry I mean football experiences at Chicago Wolf Cubs or Queens of Park Rangers or whatever.

Nigel is obviously excluded from that. The Money Guys are always gonna do their thing, but with Nigel - and just as importantly, his son - so heavily involved, we’ll be fine. I don’t see Nigel selling either, looks like his son is ready to take it on when the time comes.

Really?
I didn’t notice a similar interest in Wycombe and Rotherham when they got promoted to the Championship.
To survive and prosper in the Championship will take over a 100 million in donations.
Can’t see anybody rushing to take that off their hands.
All seems too good to be true, and we all know what that means.
Wycombe have a American owner who has run the club very sensibly and has not chased the dream.
Loses of just over a million before the pandemic. Now sees that running at over 2 million, which he now admits is not substainable.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:05 pm Ground share with a rugby club or renewed offer to the Hockey stadium would be the smart move imo

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:18 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:16 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:03 am Is that all they’ve put in, £2.7m combined?

In which case, I look forward to welcoming the new new investors in May 2022.

How did you get £2.7m combined? I’ve Not watch it all yet. But was that just the new investors and is that the total sum of their commitment over time. I’ve read £8.7m has been raised.

I didn’t. Try reading properly. Sad.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:45 am Danny M stated that 90% of people in Waltham Forest have never set foot in the ground.
No great surprise, it has always been like that.
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That is Just not TRUE . I have spent probably 50 of my 55 years of Life
In LBWF & during the 70s, 80s & 90s anybody i knew or met who i may have talked Football with
Had at some point been to Brisbane Road to see the Mighty O's

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Unless you give tickets away for a fiver, people won’t turn up.
They are not going to spend £25 a ticket,It doesn’t matter how much you push the hard sell.
A mate of mine watched a game with his son in law and grandson. Cost him a £11 for all 3.
No way would he consider £50+ and has not been over there since.

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My 1st game back for 3 years or so , against Salford
I sat in the main stand ( TJS was sold out )
I sat in the front row & next to me at 2.55 there were 7 empty seats .
Soon taken up by a bunch of lads who got in late 3.01 pm
All mid 20s knowledgeable about Football
I chatted a little to the guy next to me but not a great deal as
My lituanian wasnt great . There is still a large untapped community of
Easterj European settlers in Leyton who would have replaced the Irish
Builder types who used to come to the O's regularly .
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Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:54 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:18 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:16 am

How did you get £2.7m combined? I’ve Not watch it all yet. But was that just the new investors and is that the total sum of their commitment over time. I’ve read £8.7m has been raised.

I didn’t. Try reading properly. Sad.

Apologies for trying to have a sensible chat with an idiot. My bad.

E10EU wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:51 pm Have they said anything about the ground and where Orient's playing future is?
If I remember correctly Hearn owns the the ground and stadium, with Orient having a 20 year lease (almost half of which has expired by now).

OyinbO wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:07 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:05 pm Ground share with a rugby club or renewed offer to the Hockey stadium would be the smart move imo

which rugby club? The hockey stadium has crossed my mind, and I'm sure Nigel's as well. It would be ironic if we ended up there after all that time.

Showing how poor my rugby knowledge is I realise thanks to Google that most are the other end of London and the one that would fit nicely (dragon badge, history in Leyton) went bust (London Welsh)

Hockey Stadium was always the one we should've put more effort into rather than the Olympic Stadium.

Real Al wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:18 pm You mean kick the hockey jockies out or share? They play on an artificial surface and their season overlaps

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:53 pm

Real Al wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:18 pm You mean kick the hockey jockies out or share? They play on an artificial surface and their season overlaps

We want a hybrid pitch too so could work? Overlapping fixtures a bit more challenging but could still be workable.

Question is having missed the 2012 boat how much rent would it cost to get in elsewhere. Even if we could halve our rent costs and get away from the ground maintenance costs that's a big saving over 5-10 years, plus potential of increased capacity.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:33 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:53 pm

Real Al wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:18 pm You mean kick the hockey jockies out or share? They play on an artificial surface and their season overlaps

We want a hybrid pitch too so could work? Overlapping fixtures a bit more challenging but could still be workable.

Question is having missed the 2012 boat how much rent would it cost to get in elsewhere. Even if we could halve our rent costs and get away from the ground maintenance costs that's a big saving over 5-10 years, plus potential of increased capacity.

We must never leave Brisbane Road. If we do Hearn wins.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:42 pm
Technically not Hearn now, rather his pension fund. The slimiest move of all, transferring it at cost price to weasel out of the profit share with the club (which cost LOFC £6 million as he took the ground at half price based on future profit share).

All of which was going on in the midst of the Beelzebub crisis, slippery as they come.

E10EU wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:51 pm Have they said anything about the ground and where Orient's playing future is?
If I remember correctly Hearn owns the the ground and stadium, with Orient having a 20 year lease (almost half of which has expired by now).

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 10:22 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:42 pm
Technically not Hearn now, rather his pension fund. The slimiest move of all, transferring it at cost price to weasel out of the profit share with the club (which cost LOFC £6 million as he took the ground at half price based on future profit share).

All of which was going on in the midst of the Beelzebub crisis, slippery as they come.

And the loft experts told us there was nothing to worry about, it was just standard tax planning.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:05 pm Ground share with a rugby club or renewed offer to the Hockey stadium would be the smart move imo

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 1:36 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 10:22 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:42 pm
Technically not Hearn now, rather his pension fund. The slimiest move of all, transferring it at cost price to weasel out of the profit share with the club (which cost LOFC £6 million as he took the ground at half price based on future profit share).

All of which was going on in the midst of the Beelzebub crisis, slippery as they come.

And the loft experts told us there was nothing to worry about, it was just standard tax planning.

You of all people should know better. Stop winding it up and inject a little insight now and again.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:53 pm

Real Al wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:18 pm You mean kick the hockey jockies out or share? They play on an artificial surface and their season overlaps

We want a hybrid pitch too so could work? Overlapping fixtures a bit more challenging but could still be workable.

Question is having missed the 2012 boat how much rent would it cost to get in elsewhere. Even if we could halve our rent costs and get away from the ground maintenance costs that's a big saving over 5-10 years, plus potential of increased capacity.