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Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:09 pm
by gshaw
Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 2:56 pm
I think the owners have got to show the fans a bit of backbone.
The owners pay the bills not the fans.
They shouldn’t take any notice of someone who pays £300 Pa.
Peanuts.
Almost correct but swap fans for DoF who has cost them £150k (conservative estimate) in failed managerial appointments.
Without the fans onside they lose the whole #ourclub premise and it's a slippery slope downwards from there. This appointment could be make or break if they make another big screwup.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:14 pm
by Still wrong
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:09 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 2:56 pm
I think the owners have got to show the fans a bit of backbone.
The owners pay the bills not the fans.
They shouldn’t take any notice of someone who pays £300 Pa.
Peanuts.
Almost correct but swap fans for DoF who has cost them £150k (conservative estimate) in failed managerial appointments.
Without the fans onside they lose the whole #ourclub premise and it's a slippery slope downwards from there. This appointment could be make or break if they make another big screwup.
Not really.
The fans will still turn up.
Football fans are like that.
Can’t believe why the owners are so accessible, no mileage in it.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:22 pm
by moonwalk19
Latest Skybet odds
Kenny Jacket 8/15
Paul Tilsley 3/1 from 12/1, He has left helping out at Colchester.
Colin Calderwood 6/1
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:35 pm
by The Mindsweep
Is Paul one of Brian & Gail's kids?
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:39 pm
by moonwalk19
Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 1:03 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 12:57 pm
I am quite happy with the delay if the owners have learnt from their past mistakes and bring in a proven, experienced Manager at this level or above.My definition of proven is that they have got a club promoted from this level or above.
Bearing in mind the above what will not be acceptable is any of Lings old mates getting the job or going for the cheapest option or any pre set criteria that puts off applicants.
Calderwood ticks all the boxes.
2 promotions and a win rate of 1.46%.
Vast experience as a coach.
His last promotion was in 2008 . His win ratio over all the clubs he managed was 39.5% ? The fact he is a friend of Ling if he gets the job it’s “old pals act again “ Ling does not want anybody to upset his domain . Looks nailed on.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:47 pm
by Still wrong
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:39 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 1:03 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 12:57 pm
I am quite happy with the delay if the owners have learnt from their past mistakes and bring in a proven, experienced Manager at this level or above.My definition of proven is that they have got a club promoted from this level or above.
Bearing in mind the above what will not be acceptable is any of Lings old mates getting the job or going for the cheapest option or any pre set criteria that puts off applicants.
Calderwood ticks all the boxes.
2 promotions and a win rate of 1.46%.
Vast experience as a coach.
39.5% is better than most of the others on the list and he has a huge amount of coaching experience.
His last promotion was in 2008 . His win ratio over all the clubs he managed was 39.5% ? The fact he is a friend of Ling if he gets the job it’s “old pals act again “ Ling does not want anybody to upset his domain . Looks nailed on.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:56 pm
by faith1234
Whoever gets the orient managers job we all have to give the man a chance
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 4:11 pm
by Still wrong
faith1234 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:56 pm
Whoever gets the orient managers job we all have to give the man a chance
Calderwood might be a stretch, but after 3 straight wins everyone will love him.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 4:17 pm
by Omygawd
faith1234 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:56 pm
Whoever gets the orient managers job we all have to give the man a chance
That’d be a first.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 4:26 pm
by Real Al
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:22 pm
Latest Skybet odds
Kenny Jacket 8/15
Paul Tilsley 3/1 from 12/1, He has left helping out at Colchester.
Colin Calderwood 6/1
Paul Tilsley not done much since he was mayor of Birmingham in 1993/4
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:23 pm
by PutneyO
After all this "Will it be Calderwood, will it be Jacket", it'll be an almighty let down if it's Danny Senda.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:30 pm
by gshaw
Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:14 pm
Not really.
The fans will still turn up.
Football fans are like that.
Can’t believe why the owners are so accessible, no mileage in it.
The day trippers who go to see their friends more than the football might. The more hardcore element who actually care about what they see on the pitch are fed up with the ongoing shambles Ling is overseeing.
The owners get the value-add in keeping fans closely involved. That's why they're winning awards for the streaming service and social media work that much bigger sides haven't done as well as we have. Shame they're not so switched on about the DoF's responsibility in where we find ourselves with no direction or clue on the pitch.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:45 pm
by Long slender neck
The direction is upwards, our league position has improved every year and you know that, so stop the vendetta.
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:47 pm
by gshaw
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:45 pm
The direction is upwards, our league position has improved every year and you know that, so stop the vendetta.
Not because of Ling, in spite of him.
Fletcher - screwed it up
Embleton - screwed it up
McAnuff - waste of time
The first two are completely on the DoF, simple as that
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:16 pm
by Long slender neck
Embleton did not screw it up
McAnuff did about as well as expected with the squad at his disposal
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:21 pm
by Type high
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:16 pm
Embleton did not screw it up
McAnuff did about as well as expected with the squad at his disposal
How can you say embleflop didn't screw up, did you not see our games have you ever in recent years see a guy that was hopelessly out of his depth and didn't have a clue what to do
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:26 pm
by gshaw
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:16 pm
Embleton did not screw it up
McAnuff did about as well as expected with the squad at his disposal
Ling screwed it up putting Embleton in as permanent manager after the guy had stepped down previously. When it suited Ling then stuck the knife in his back with some of the comments he made late in RE reign, teflon man absolving himself of the blame again.
Manager does poorly, they lose their job
DoF does poorly choosing said managers not once but three times, gets to carry on unchallenged
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:55 pm
by cockhat
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:45 pm
The direction is upwards, our league position has improved every year and you know that, so stop the vendetta.
So another 8 years and we make the playoffs? Great!
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:14 pm
by PoundhillO
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:26 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:16 pm
Embleton did not screw it up
McAnuff did about as well as expected with the squad at his disposal
Ling screwed it up putting Embleton in as permanent manager after the guy had stepped down previously. When it suited Ling then stuck the knife in his back with some of the comments he made late in RE reign, teflon man absolving himself of the blame again.
Manager does poorly, they lose their job
DoF does poorly choosing said managers not once but three times, gets to carry on unchallenged
Spot on .
Re: What’s the Delay??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:14 pm
by PoundhillO
cockhat wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:55 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:45 pm
The direction is upwards, our league position has improved every year and you know that, so stop the vendetta.
So another 8 years and we make the playoffs? Great!
