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Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:53 pm
by tuffers#1
Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:30 am
OldTownO wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:47 am
I think we have made a massive mistake in letting JM leave. He took over a weak squad, who gave him the typical ‘new manager bounce’ but then quickly dropped back to the standard they had previously shown.
He would have learned so much in his short time, and I am convinced he would have made some decent signings in the summer. He could have come back with ‘his’ squad and I for one was quite excited.
Unless the board have already got a quality replacement ready, then I doubt we will get the ‘big name’ we all wish for.
With JM we had a lad that liked the club, has played at every level, talks very well, clearly intelligent. He would definitely have the desire to succeed as opposed to just existing (as a few managers do), and I’m in no doubt he will go on to be a massive success elsewhere.
He would have no problem getting decent players to work with him, he is an attractive proposition for both new, and older heads - we are now in a position where we could potentially sign new players without a manager in place, and that is stupidity. Players are drawn to what players are at the club, and who the gaffer is - we are now weak on both fronts.
I hope I’m pleasantly surprised by the new appointment - but I just can’t help feel we have just lost our biggest asset.
Well said - I’m absolutely livid. Don’t really give a toss who we appoint now.
Mark Bonner didn’t have a whole lot of experience at Cambridge when he was appointed
2 who fully understand the potential we have lost
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:55 pm
by tuffers#1
OyinbO wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:33 am
Jobi has so much more potential than Embleton ever did, yet only got a fraction of the opportunity that Embleton did.
There was a podcast pushing for a Mentor with 1 of the owners .
I think this may have clouded some judgement at the top of the club .
I hope we dont face a Jobi side in the near future &
Leave it thinking we made a BIG MISTAKE !
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:57 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
I'd love to see Jobi go on into management because I feel he has the makings of being a really good manager . It would be interesting to see what he could do with a better team of players.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:00 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 8:55 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:33 am
Jobi has so much more potential than Embleton ever did, yet only got a fraction of the opportunity that Embleton did.
There was a podcast pushing for a Mentor with 1 of the owners .
I think this may have clouded some judgement at the top of the club .
I hope we dont face a Jobi side in the near future &
Leave it thinking we made a BIG MISTAKE !
Yes . that would be a very Orient-esque thing to happen.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:05 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:00 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 8:55 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:33 am
Jobi has so much more potential than Embleton ever did, yet only got a fraction of the opportunity that Embleton did.
There was a podcast pushing for a Mentor with 1 of the owners .
I think this may have clouded some judgement at the top of the club .
I hope we dont face a Jobi side in the near future &
Leave it thinking we made a BIG MISTAKE !
Yes . that would be a very Orient-esque thing to happen.
If it does happen & we get spanked
Ill make sure im on Said podcast asking
What the f*ck did you do !
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:32 pm
by KVN
Jobi or Ross what is the difference. We get better players we finish higher up. Sad to see them both go, they tried there best.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:11 pm
by Orient Punxx
First time I’ve doubted NT. Can only assume that Jobi didn’t want it?
Just cannot see a journeyman L1/2 manager being any better (including Slade
).
We are an East End club and I WAS mighty proud that we had a black manager. Not only that, I viewed it as an asset.
We really have missed an opportunity here and I’m fuc-kin upset.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:18 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Jobi announced his playing by retirement on Instagram. And by the sounds of it he’s still deciding what he’s doing next but doesn’t look like it’s with us
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:22 pm
by gshaw
Some interesting replies in here but long story short neither Embleton nor McAnuff were ready for management.
The sad thing in all this is Jobi could've easily done another year as a player. Managed well he was leading the group on the pitch and ended up providing two goal of the season contenders plus I remember some stats showing he was also our most creative CM before moving to management duties.
Some really poor judgement calls from above have cost us good staff who were doing fine in their roles. Can only hope the penny has finally dropped but it's took a lot of collateral damage to do it.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:24 pm
by tuffers#1
Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:11 pm
First time I’ve doubted NT. Can only assume that Jobi didn’t want it?
Just cannot see a journeyman L1/2 manager being any better (including Slade
).
We are an East End club and I WAS mighty proud that we had a black manager. Not only that, I viewed it as an asset.
We really have missed an opportunity here and I’m fuc-kin upset.
Nigel & Kent only reacted to the threat of fans
Withdrawing support by not funding season tickets.
It's warranted to react .
Blame those who called for heads to roll for dire football etc .
All while forgetting about Squad decimated for 5 to 6 weeks with covid , empty grounds etc .
The moaners will tell you it had nothing to do with them !
To that i would say lo9k what has gone on after Nigel & Kent said they
both read the Social media .
Ross gone , Jobi gone , now the attacks on Harold Brill Senda Saah &
Mostly on Ling Senior .
They should club together & buy Nige & Kent out .
Yer right
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 4:24 am
by KVN
He should be able to get a coaching job easy he has a good history with watford and reading.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:52 am
by Orient Punxx
“Nigel & Kent only reacted to the threat of fans
Withdrawing support by not funding season tickets.”
Can’t believe that they would be so fickle. Usual lines on a forum from fans that just wish to vent their frustrations come what may. I’m sure half of which don’t even have a season ticket.
I’m hardly licking my lips at the likes of Cooper/Collingwood managing the team. This was an absolute crap season where we have missed a huge opportunity of progressing. Providing Jobi with opportunity of football management was the brightest part of the season and gave a good platform going into the next season. Now 20/21 will just be labelled as a car crash of a season and other than the signing of Kemp/Thompson and a new roof on the East Stand can be flushed down the pan.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 9:53 am
by PutneyO
Its easy to say this with hindsight, but Jobi should never have taken the job.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:59 am
by EastDerehamO
PutneyO wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:53 am
Its easy to say this with hindsight, but Jobi should never have taken the job.
I guess it was a gamble to nothing given we were getting nowhere near the play-offs under Embleton.
I recall Travis saying he keeps hearing about appointing a manager with experience from many fans, but Jobi has an incredible amount of experience under a great many managers in his career, and me thinking “no that isn’t what we meant, it’s experience in the job”! Anyway hopefully we’ll end up in the right place, from the club statement the board seem to have made the right noises this time, let’s hope the appointment when it comes bears it out.
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:10 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 8:53 pm
Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:30 am
OldTownO wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:47 am
I think we have made a massive mistake in letting JM leave. He took over a weak squad, who gave him the typical ‘new manager bounce’ but then quickly dropped back to the standard they had previously shown.
He would have learned so much in his short time, and I am convinced he would have made some decent signings in the summer. He could have come back with ‘his’ squad and I for one was quite excited.
Unless the board have already got a quality replacement ready, then I doubt we will get the ‘big name’ we all wish for.
With JM we had a lad that liked the club, has played at every level, talks very well, clearly intelligent. He would definitely have the desire to succeed as opposed to just existing (as a few managers do), and I’m in no doubt he will go on to be a massive success elsewhere.
He would have no problem getting decent players to work with him, he is an attractive proposition for both new, and older heads - we are now in a position where we could potentially sign new players without a manager in place, and that is stupidity. Players are drawn to what players are at the club, and who the gaffer is - we are now weak on both fronts.
I hope I’m pleasantly surprised by the new appointment - but I just can’t help feel we have just lost our biggest asset.
Well said - I’m absolutely livid. Don’t really give a toss who we appoint now.
Mark Bonner didn’t have a whole lot of experience at Cambridge when he was appointed
2 who fully understand the potential we have lost
This is my thoughts exactly . I think Jobi would have done a good job for us along with some better new players .
Re: Sad to see Jobi leave
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:25 pm
by gshaw
PutneyO wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:53 am
Its easy to say this with hindsight, but Jobi should never have taken the job.
Was said at the time too. Top player but not ready for management at the drop of a hat, especially considering he'd stepped back from coaching to focus on the playing & media side at the start of the season.
).