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Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 11:03 am**

Article_50 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:49 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:34 pm Re-signing Harrold worries me, as McCallum would be a much superior option - and the two of them seem too similar (stylistically) to provide an good mix of options and permutations from four strikers.
Our aim is to finish mid table in League 2, not to challenge Man City and Liverpool !

I think we'll have greater ambitions than that. If that's what Ling is saying to Bonne, he'll be off to Sunderland in a shot.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 11:12 am**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:53 am Justin Edinburgh likes his wingers to cut inside, that's why Brophy has been playing out of position all season. He's an old fashioned left winger, but has been told to play the number ten position. Put him back on the wing and he will destroy teams with his pace and crosses.

I really want Paul McCallum back here for sure. With him and Bonne up front, we would score a lot of goals IMO.

With his great power in the air, Paul is a very good option to have up our sleeve. Football is not all about pretty passing patterns etc, its purely about putting the ball in the net, McCallum is good at that !

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 11:55 am**

OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:03 am
Article_50 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:49 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:34 pm Re-signing Harrold worries me, as McCallum would be a much superior option - and the two of them seem too similar (stylistically) to provide an good mix of options and permutations from four strikers.
Our aim is to finish mid table in League 2, not to challenge Man City and Liverpool !
I think we'll have greater ambitions than that. If that's what Ling is saying to Bonne, he'll be off to Sunderland in a shot.

Is that serious, about Bonne and Sunderland?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:00 pm**

Sunderland are one of a number of Championship clubs that have been "linked" with him. I expect that this means they've been watching him, but judging from his own recent comments I doubt he'll be leaving this summer. But I expect a large part of his decision to stay will be based on Ling et al saying that we will be competing for promotion again next year.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:18 pm**

I dont feel McCallum works hard enough without the ball but if JE et al think otherwise and sign him, I trust their judgement over mine.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:24 pm**

OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:00 pm Sunderland are one of a number of Championship clubs that have been "linked" with him. I expect that this means they've been watching him, but judging from his own recent comments I doubt he'll be leaving this summer. But I expect a large part of his decision to stay will be based on Ling et al saying that we will be competing for promotion again next year.

Sunderland are league one, at least for the next few days.

I love Bonne, but I still think there are questions over whether he will perform in L2, let alone the Championship.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:27 pm**

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:55 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:03 am
Article_50 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:49 pm

Our aim is to finish mid table in League 2, not to challenge Man City and Liverpool !
I think we'll have greater ambitions than that. If that's what Ling is saying to Bonne, he'll be off to Sunderland in a shot.
Is that serious, about Bonne and Sunderland?

So you obviously haven’t read or seen the interview that says Bonne is staying from Bonne himself

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:39 pm**

Money always talks. Who could blame him if he took an opportunity? Look at what happened to Moses when he went to Hull. Injury can make it a short career.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:49 pm**

DuvB wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:18 pm I dont feel McCallum works hard enough without the ball but if JE et al think otherwise and sign him, I trust their judgement over mine.

Bonne can provide the workrate. We really need someone that will stay in the middle and provide options, as far too many times we set up well but don't have anyone able to attack the ball in the middle.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:54 pm**

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:49 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:18 pm I dont feel McCallum works hard enough without the ball but if JE et al think otherwise and sign him, I trust their judgement over mine.
Bonne can provide the workrate. We really need someone that will stay in the middle and provide options, as far too many times we set up well but don't have anyone able to attack the ball in the middle.

Yeah we do

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 1:10 pm**

DuvB wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:18 pm I dont feel McCallum works hard enough without the ball but if JE et al think otherwise and sign him, I trust their judgement over mine.

This is a valid point. The way we defend is with Bonne and Koroma working their arses off to stop the back 4 playing the ball out, forcing the keeper to go long, which our back 3 can deal with.

I'm not sure Paul would be up for that.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 2:08 pm**

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:54 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:49 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:18 pm I dont feel McCallum works hard enough without the ball but if JE et al think otherwise and sign him, I trust their judgement over mine.
Bonne can provide the workrate. We really need someone that will stay in the middle and provide options, as far too many times we set up well but don't have anyone able to attack the ball in the middle.
Yeah we do

We don't - too many times there are no options in the middle, especially when Bonne drops off or goes wide. Then our attacks break down. So I'm fine with McCallum coming in and staying central.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 2:08 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:53 am Justin Edinburgh likes his wingers to cut inside, that's why Brophy has been playing out of position all season. He's an old fashioned left winger, but has been told to play the number ten position. Put him back on the wing and he will destroy teams with his pace and crosses.

I really want Paul McCallum back here for sure. With him and Bonne up front, we would score a lot of goals IMO.

Kind of agree with you. My only reservation is his movement, which might be limited and his injury record. Is it a gamble?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 2:38 pm**

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:27 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:55 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:03 am

I think we'll have greater ambitions than that. If that's what Ling is saying to Bonne, he'll be off to Sunderland in a shot.
Is that serious, about Bonne and Sunderland?
So you obviously haven’t read or seen the interview that says Bonne is staying from Bonne himself

No, I haven't...?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 2:54 pm**

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 2:38 pm
Lucky7 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:27 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:55 am
Is that serious, about Bonne and Sunderland?
So you obviously haven’t read or seen the interview that says Bonne is staying from Bonne himself
No, I haven't...?

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:33 pm**

Sixteen goals in seventeen games this year in a mid table National League side

CDAJ

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:11 pm**

Holy thread resurrection

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:24 pm**

He’s a great striker
Always remember when he came back to ours
when playing for Eastleigh and had a blinder

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:32 pm**

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:24 pm He’s a great striker
Always remember when he came back to ours
when playing for Eastleigh and had a blinder

Gerd Muller
Thierry Henry
Alan Shearer
Dennis Bergkamp
Diego Maradonna

These are all great strikers. I'm not sure a striker playing most of his career in lowest reaches of EFL or non league is a great striker. Especially one who has not played anyehre near 100 games even in the EFL

When he was at Orient, he averaged less than 1 goal in 3 games. Not the record of a GREAT striker

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:58 pm**

Jesus Christ.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:10 pm**

What a muppet
I said McCallum is a great striker - which he is
I didn’t say he was world class
Glad to be reminded why Spen666 is on foe

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:31 pm**

Twelve goals in 33 games for us in his last season when we were in League 2

Same season we had 5 managers (including the genius Cavasin and Omer Riza), the club finished bottom( by ten points) and were a shitshow top to bottom

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:41 pm**

No thanks. He’s nowhere near League One standard.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:00 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:58 pm Jesus Christ.

What's his scoring record like?

I thought he was a keeper given the number of saves he is said to have made

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:14 pm**

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 1:10 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:18 pm I dont feel McCallum works hard enough without the ball but if JE et al think otherwise and sign him, I trust their judgement over mine.
This is a valid point. The way we defend is with Bonne and Koroma working their arses off to stop the back 4 playing the ball out, forcing the keeper to go long, which our back 3 can deal with.

I'm not sure Paul would be up for that.

Now known as the 'high press'.

Don't remember much about him but if I doubted his work rate 4 years ago, I'm guessing it hasn't increased in the intervening period.

Was he not also bit of a sicknote?

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