Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:35 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:26 pm

George wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:01 pm The one thing a full back should do beyond everything else is to stop crosses.Ling doesn’t seem to think that that is important.
He is a good player. By that I mean he can control a ball , he can head a ball , he can kick a ball. But I don’t think he understands instructions or has any understanding of the game. I just don’t think that he is intelligent enough.Like many footballers, I doubt he would have a job if he wasn’t in the game.
Play him as much as you like but that part of his character will never change. He is not good enough for league two.

@George
That is basic defensive stuff and we cannot even seem to grasp the basics of defending the goal, especially when we have a right back who gives the winger he is supposed to mark,so much space and time to put crosses into the box thus creating goal scoring chances for his own forward players ( note the first goal we conceded) All this in spite of a coaching bench full of people who have lots of coaching badges between them ! I am sure that when I watched Os play at home to Dagenham in one of the cups a few seasons ago, Sam Ling played quite well for the Daggers in a normal type of fullback role. His game and confidence have really gone backwards since he re-joined Leyton Orient.

He plays like someone totally lacking in confidence. I still feel there is a decent player in there somewhere. Every now and then he does something really good. One pass at Salford was genuinely good for example.

But something somewhere ain’t right and he plays like someone who lacks passion for the club. Shame.

There must be people at the club who can Help him. Jobi for example. Why I was surprised that Jobi In one move completely ignored Ling, when in a good position, and chose to do it all himself. Coincidence? Maybe. But Ling looks like a spare part. You know, those games you play as a kid when there’s always someone no much good. Makes up the numbers but gets overlooked by the better players.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:53 pm
He isn’t an 18 year old kid who’s played a handful of games you know

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:35 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:26 pm

George wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:01 pm The one thing a full back should do beyond everything else is to stop crosses.Ling doesn’t seem to think that that is important.
He is a good player. By that I mean he can control a ball , he can head a ball , he can kick a ball. But I don’t think he understands instructions or has any understanding of the game. I just don’t think that he is intelligent enough.Like many footballers, I doubt he would have a job if he wasn’t in the game.
Play him as much as you like but that part of his character will never change. He is not good enough for league two.

@George
That is basic defensive stuff and we cannot even seem to grasp the basics of defending the goal, especially when we have a right back who gives the winger he is supposed to mark,so much space and time to put crosses into the box thus creating goal scoring chances for his own forward players ( note the first goal we conceded) All this in spite of a coaching bench full of people who have lots of coaching badges between them ! I am sure that when I watched Os play at home to Dagenham in one of the cups a few seasons ago, Sam Ling played quite well for the Daggers in a normal type of fullback role. His game and confidence have really gone backwards since he re-joined Leyton Orient.

He plays like someone totally lacking in confidence. I still feel there is a decent player in there somewhere. Every now and then he does something really good. One pass at Salford was genuinely good for example.

But something somewhere ain’t right and he plays like someone who lacks passion for the club. Shame.

There must be people at the club who can Help him. Jobi for example. Why I was surprised that Jobi In one move completely ignored Ling, when in a good position, and chose to do it all himself. Coincidence? Maybe. But Ling looks like a spare part. You know, those games you play as a kid when there’s always someone no much good. Makes up the numbers but gets overlooked by the better players.

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:26 pm

George wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:01 pm The one thing a full back should do beyond everything else is to stop crosses.Ling doesn’t seem to think that that is important.
He is a good player. By that I mean he can control a ball , he can head a ball , he can kick a ball. But I don’t think he understands instructions or has any understanding of the game. I just don’t think that he is intelligent enough.Like many footballers, I doubt he would have a job if he wasn’t in the game.
Play him as much as you like but that part of his character will never change. He is not good enough for league two.

@George
That is basic defensive stuff and we cannot even seem to grasp the basics of defending the goal, especially when we have a right back who gives the winger he is supposed to mark,so much space and time to put crosses into the box thus creating goal scoring chances for his own forward players ( note the first goal we conceded) All this in spite of a coaching bench full of people who have lots of coaching badges between them ! I am sure that when I watched Os play at home to Dagenham in one of the cups a few seasons ago, Sam Ling played quite well for the Daggers in a normal type of fullback role. His game and confidence have really gone backwards since he re-joined Leyton Orient.

AckneyAwks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:38 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:26 pm

George wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:01 pm The one thing a full back should do beyond everything else is to stop crosses.Ling doesn’t seem to think that that is important.
He is a good player. By that I mean he can control a ball , he can head a ball , he can kick a ball. But I don’t think he understands instructions or has any understanding of the game. I just don’t think that he is intelligent enough.Like many footballers, I doubt he would have a job if he wasn’t in the game.
Play him as much as you like but that part of his character will never change. He is not good enough for league two.

@George
That is basic defensive stuff and we cannot even seem to grasp the basics of defending the goal, especially when we have a right back who gives the winger he is supposed to mark,so much space and time to put crosses into the box thus creating goal scoring chances for his own forward players ( note the first goal we conceded) All this in spite of a coaching bench full of people who have lots of coaching badges between them ! I am sure that when I watched Os play at home to Dagenham in one of the cups a few seasons ago, Sam Ling played quite well for the Daggers in a normal type of fullback role. His game and confidence have really gone backwards since he re-joined Leyton Orient.

Forum/Dad = pressure which leads to confidence and form. At the moment, he dont have it!

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:27 pm He was much better for Daggers than us though. He just was. So its not really that ridiculous to say his confidence is probably shot, in addition to his ability. He can be better than he has been for us.

(And I'd have him as my last choice for the position myself).

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:07 pm Maybe 10 live. I was doing some work for a company that sponsors Daggers so actually saw about 5 on the trot, plus I watched him on TV here and there. He was decent for them for the most part.

He's had more than 5 decent games for Orient. He just has mate, come on. He's not my sort of player. I was surprised we signed him and I'm surprised we persist but I do still think the reaction to him (and his Dad) on here is unreal. It's all we bloody talk about.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:18 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:07 pm Maybe 10 live. I was doing some work for a company that sponsors Daggers so actually saw about 5 on the trot, plus I watched him on TV here and there. He was decent for them for the most part.

He's had more than 5 decent games for Orient. He just has mate, come on. He's not my sort of player. I was surprised we signed him and I'm surprised we persist but I do still think the reaction to him (and his Dad) on here is unreal. It's all we bloody talk about.

He hasn’t though. He has no redeeming features to his game. The reaction to him on here is because he’s sh*t every week and we have to pay to watch it.