tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:02 pm
Judd is as over rated as JMD on this board by many .
Ok to a point , but the point is very blunt !
I don’t think he is over rated. Even those supporting him are fully aware of his many weaknesses.
The issue is simply that he is better than the DOFs son.
England selectors would disagree with you
As would goals per game stats .
Re: Myles Judd
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:01 pm
by O my gawd
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:23 am
Has anything been said as to why young Myles didn't feature in either game at the weekend?
He'd been putting in some great performances, made himself the favourite to start the first proper game, and has now disappeared.
I'd love to know where these great performances have come from.
He's a very average player, Sam Ling is slightly better. So looks like this new lad will be an improvement.
I say well done ML & RE.
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:23 am
Has anything been said as to why young Myles didn't feature in either game at the weekend?
He'd been putting in some great performances, made himself the favourite to start the first proper game, and has now disappeared.
I'd love to know where these great performances have come from.
He's a very average player, Sam Ling is slightly better. So looks like this new lad will be an improvement.
I say well done ML & RE.
He’s had more good games than Sam Ling in less than half the games
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:23 am
Has anything been said as to why young Myles didn't feature in either game at the weekend?
He'd been putting in some great performances, made himself the favourite to start the first proper game, and has now disappeared.
I'd love to know where these great performances have come from.
He's a very average player, Sam Ling is slightly better. So looks like this new lad will be an improvement.
I say well done ML & RE.
He’s had more good games than Sam Ling in less than half the games
Judd has played more games for us than ling jnr.
If Judd was that good he'd be way ahead & the position would be his.
He's not & he isn't!
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:23 am
Has anything been said as to why young Myles didn't feature in either game at the weekend?
He'd been putting in some great performances, made himself the favourite to start the first proper game, and has now disappeared.
I'd love to know where these great performances have come from.
He's a very average player, Sam Ling is slightly better. So looks like this new lad will be an improvement.
I say well done ML & RE.
He’s had more good games than Sam Ling in less than half the games
Again show in which games he has been considerably better. I get nervous watching him because he's an accident waiting to happen. I Loved him when he first come into the team in those dark days, he gave his all when others didn't care, but ability wise he hasn't improved at all.
Whereas look at where Danny Happe was then & how much he has improved.
I'd love to know where these great performances have come from.
He's a very average player, Sam Ling is slightly better. So looks like this new lad will be an improvement.
I say well done ML & RE.
He’s had more good games than Sam Ling in less than half the games
Judd has played more games for us than ling jnr.
If Judd was that good he'd be way ahead & the position would be his.
He's not & he isn't!
is this not the job of the many coaches to train , improve and develope these young players
what on earth do they all do
Re: Myles Judd
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:39 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:22 pm
is this not the job of the many coaches to train , improve and develope these young players
what on earth do they all do
That's a really good point.
Can you think of a single player in the past few years who we have developed into a better player than he was when starting with us? I can't.
Daniels, absolutely. I wasn’t really referring to that time frame though.
There have been several kids who have naturally ‘improved’ as they’ve got a few games under their belt, become stronger/quicker etc such as Koroma and Happe. But I don’t see how they’ve been developed. Koroma for example still had poor decision making and a lack of end product when he left us. Happe still dallies on the ball and gets caught. Ekpiteta also makes poor choices more than you would expect, diving in and misjudging.
Bonne is a no as well. He was the same player he was as when he joined, just with 80 games and 40 goals to his name. His finishing was his biggest weakness and that didn’t improve at all over the two years with us.
For all the coaches in the building, there ain’t much developing going on.
You think it’s fair to use the time when he was thrown under the bus by a mental owner? Just shows how low you will go to stick up for Ling Jnr.
Ling jnr was part of the O's back then wasnt he ?
He was lucky to get out for a year or 2.
Re: Myles Judd
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:35 pm
by Thor
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:26 pm
I’m not sure Koroma was coached into a better player. He was just made into a striker, so got more time infront of goal.
No he was coached in to being the player we saw when he departed. His strength improved, his decision making improved, his team play improved, I could go on, but under Justin the improvement was like night and day. When Justin took over he was a boy, when he left us Justin had turned him into a man - I’m talking football terms rather human aged traits.
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:26 pm
I’m not sure Koroma was coached into a better player. He was just made into a striker, so got more time infront of goal.
No he was coached in to being the player we saw when he departed. His strength improved, his decision making improved, his team play improved, I could go on, but under Justin the improvement was like night and day. When Justin took over he was a boy, when he left us Justin had turned him into a man - I’m talking football terms rather human aged traits.
Since Koroma left the Os, it would seem that his game has certainly not progressed and in all probability has gone backwards. Confidence is everything in football and without regular games and playing well, his confidence will most likely wain rather than improve.
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:26 pm
I’m not sure Koroma was coached into a better player. He was just made into a striker, so got more time infront of goal.
No he was coached in to being the player we saw when he departed. His strength improved, his decision making improved, his team play improved, I could go on, but under Justin the improvement was like night and day. When Justin took over he was a boy, when he left us Justin had turned him into a man - I’m talking football terms rather human aged traits.
Totally disagree.
Yes, he was a better player but that’s just because he was 20 years old, not 17.
He wasn’t stronger. If you remember he properly bulked up a year or two back, and he quite rightly shifted that. His decision making and end product was still questionable. I loved the kid, I still wish he was here, but let’s not rewrite history.
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:26 pm
I’m not sure Koroma was coached into a better player. He was just made into a striker, so got more time infront of goal.
No he was coached in to being the player we saw when he departed. His strength improved, his decision making improved, his team play improved, I could go on, but under Justin the improvement was like night and day. When Justin took over he was a boy, when he left us Justin had turned him into a man - I’m talking football terms rather human aged traits.
Fair enough, I never watched him the season before. I’m going on the one season
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:26 pm
I’m not sure Koroma was coached into a better player. He was just made into a striker, so got more time infront of goal.
No he was coached in to being the player we saw when he departed. His strength improved, his decision making improved, his team play improved, I could go on, but under Justin the improvement was like night and day. When Justin took over he was a boy, when he left us Justin had turned him into a man - I’m talking football terms rather human aged traits.
Totally disagree.
Yes, he was a better player but that’s just because he was 20 years old, not 17.
He wasn’t stronger. If you remember he properly bulked up a year or two back, and he quite rightly shifted that. His decision making and end product was still questionable. I loved the kid, I still wish he was here, but let’s not rewrite history.
Seriously
Just because he was 3 years older ?
Re: Myles Judd
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:12 pm
by Long slender neck
Ah so now we've come up with some names, any improvement in them is down to natural progression? And you can tell this how?