Independent Leyton Orient Forum

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:32 pm

Andy Gilson wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:46 pm Well we were discussing this on Orient Hour last week and some of you thought we were making it up!

More like,
Nobody listened to your show & just asked questions
If anyone who knew where it came from.

Easier to ask a couple of questions on here
Than to face listening or contemplating
Self harm instead .

P.S i have an on/off switch so there is always a 3rd option for me

Dohnut wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:51 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:20 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:18 pm

I look forward to seeing proven quality signings before the season starts for our new assistant coach to coach.

A good coach moulds the players he already has .

Did Justin Edinburgh not teach you that ?

Last season was traumatic due to him passing .
Lets judge during & after this coming season eh .

the best leaders, like Justin, have leadership qualities born in them. They just need to learn a few techniques on how best to use that ability.

You can learn how to be a boss. You can’t learn how to be a leader.

Andy Gilson wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:11 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:32 pm

Andy Gilson wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:46 pm Well we were discussing this on Orient Hour last week and some of you thought we were making it up!

More like,
Nobody listened to your show & just asked questions
If anyone who knew where it came from.

Easier to ask a couple of questions on here
Than to face listening or contemplating
Self harm instead .

P.S i have an on/off switch so there is always a 3rd option for me

Actually our listening figures are in the 1000s but your choice whether you listen or not.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:31 pm Danny who ffs. ???

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:25 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:02 pm Welcome Danny and I wish you all the best and hopefully you can help this club progress forwards and upwards.

For those of you that have suggested or have thought about suggesting we've appointed Danny to fit the current bame criteria need to go and wobble your heads somewhat.

You give your head a wobble.

After all of the attention over the last couple of months on the lack of black coaches the appointment of a black coach so soon after is going to attract questions over whether he was chosen on ability or colour.

These issues cut either way.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:50 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:59 pm He's been coaching since 2013. If they'd appointed somebody with more experience you'd be moaning that they were an old failure or some such.

Tell me again , how you were appointed as a moderator on here?

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:04 pm What are we doing with so many chiefs and no good Indians. I am making the call, we are getting relegated this year.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:04 pm I don’t care if he is black,white or pink. What are we doing with so many chiefs and no good Indians. I am making the call, we are getting relegated this year.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:51 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:20 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:18 pm

I look forward to seeing proven quality signings before the season starts for our new assistant coach to coach.

A good coach moulds the players he already has .

Did Justin Edinburgh not teach you that ?

Last season was traumatic due to him passing .
Lets judge during & after this coming season eh .

the best leaders, like Justin, have leadership qualities born in them. They just need to learn a few techniques on how best to use that ability.

You can learn how to be a boss. You can’t learn how to be a leader.

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:08 pm Club hires an experienced coach and results don't go well, peoples reaction will be along the lines of:

"Why did we hire a dinosaur of a coach who is passed his best? Why didn't we look at bringing in a younger more progressive coach?"

Club hires a younger less experienced coach, but more progressive coach and results don't go well, peoples reaction will be along the lines of:

"Its experience we need! Why didn't we get an experienced person in, why are we wasting our time with coaches who've never been involved with a first team?"

With coaching positions, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't as far as I'm concerned.

If results are poor certain people will select one of the two above options and if results do go well, then chances are nobody will mention about a positive impact the backroom staff make. Mainly because people are more cynical and are quicker to jump on negatives rather then positives - but that isn't just football, thats life in general.

Admin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:03 pm Also, just on the appointment, I'd have been surprised if Embleton and Ling brought in a senior figure purely as it'd lead to most people speculating on when said senior figure would be taking over from Embleton etc etc. That sort of speculation isn't just limited to fans - any player sitting in the dressing room now seeing such a person being appointed would think the same. Human nature makes that unavoidable. Regardless of what any of us think, Ling, Travis and Teague are not going to do anything that could undermine Embleton after making a big noise about him being the right appointment after the Fletcher debacle.

That being said, there are plenty of young coaches both inside the game and on the periphery who have innovative methods that need to make career progress. Personally, I'm pleased that LOFC are offering an opening to someone like Danny Senda rather than re-appointing an "experienced" figure with nothing new to offer. You're constantly hearing the complaint that young coaches aren't getting opportunities and the same old faces are picking up management jobs yet the minute such an appointment is made, there's moaning about appointing an inexperienced coach. I'm more than happy to see young coaches getting breaks at this level. Fingers crossed he'll be the right foil for RE that benefits both parties and the players.

Oh and heh at Ornchurch's BAME nonsense.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:37 pm I’m sure a few of you were at Barnet prior to us winning the league and that day they totally bossed us, out played us and out smarted us all over the pitch. That day they were very impressive, and they looked a good team ready to press on.