Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:37 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:39 am

Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:55 pm
You are so bitter but presume you have facts, rather than fiction, about corporation tax loop holes. Also , hand on heart, have you never under declared income from all sources or paid cash to anyone for goods services etc without declaring such payments?
Fact is most tax income comes from the top 5% of those who pay tax. Why should they, or indeed anyone else, subsidise wealthy football clubs?

Bitter? Where’d that come from?

Anyway, back on topic.

My point, which you have totally missed is that I haven’t seen any public outpouring of outrage that McDonald’s are using tax payers money to subsidies their staff? Or Nissan? Or topshop? Or any of the other huge companies with wealthy owners.

Seems strange that football clubs fall into a different position.

So are you for wealthy companies, football related or otherwise, gaining from tax payers money or not? And whilst we are here, are you saying Joe Bloggs paying his cleanser cash in hand is the same as Starbucks dodging millions of pounds in tax? As it sounds like you are advocating companies not paying their way?

To answer your point no I do not advocate anyone avoiding tax from multi national companies to every individual. Of course most companies will employ accountants to ensure tax is paid and done legally. Most do exactly that but ones that don’t are assumed to be the majority rather than the minority.
Your self righteousness is impressive though I’d be interested to know if you have given back any of your income to others during this crisis.
Also why don’t you answer my question re paying people cash for work done to avoid tax? Is it because you do?

greyhound wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:08 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:54 pm

greyhound wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:18 pm

Ive had a pay cut for years under this government.
there is an old saying Jesus saves not on the f....g pension i get.

Then stop voting for that shower.

Labour is the party of the people, especially now we have Keir in charge and Progress instead of Momentum.

Welcome aboard fella.


you remind me of the daily mirror pundit Kevin Maguire.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:30 am

greyhound wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:08 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:54 pm

Then stop voting for that shower.

Labour is the party of the people, especially now we have Keir in charge and Progress instead of Momentum.

Welcome aboard fella.


you remind me of the daily mirror pundit Kevin Maguire.

Yep both are muppets.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:55 am McGuire and Dis are he muppets, not you!

Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:37 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:39 am

Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:55 pm
You are so bitter but presume you have facts, rather than fiction, about corporation tax loop holes. Also , hand on heart, have you never under declared income from all sources or paid cash to anyone for goods services etc without declaring such payments?
Fact is most tax income comes from the top 5% of those who pay tax. Why should they, or indeed anyone else, subsidise wealthy football clubs?

Bitter? Where’d that come from?

Anyway, back on topic.

My point, which you have totally missed is that I haven’t seen any public outpouring of outrage that McDonald’s are using tax payers money to subsidies their staff? Or Nissan? Or topshop? Or any of the other huge companies with wealthy owners.

Seems strange that football clubs fall into a different position.

So are you for wealthy companies, football related or otherwise, gaining from tax payers money or not? And whilst we are here, are you saying Joe Bloggs paying his cleanser cash in hand is the same as Starbucks dodging millions of pounds in tax? As it sounds like you are advocating companies not paying their way?

To answer your point no I do not advocate anyone avoiding tax from multi national companies to every individual. Of course most companies will employ accountants to ensure tax is paid and done legally. Most do exactly that but ones that don’t are assumed to be the majority rather than the minority.
Your self righteousness is impressive though I’d be interested to know if you have given back any of your income to others during this crisis.
Also why don’t you answer my question re paying people cash for work done to avoid tax? Is it because you do?