Independent Leyton Orient Forum

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:46 pm

BigDaddyO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:09 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:46 pm It has been as dull as dish water that's for sure. Whatever way you look at it the team has under performed, the management more so.

'Whatever way you look at it the team has underperformed.'

Has it?

The aim was always to stay up.

Put whatever slant on it you want, the team have underperformed! Is that down to the management? Very likely!

BigDaddyO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:14 pm

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:46 pm

BigDaddyO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:09 pm

'Whatever way you look at it the team has underperformed.'

Has it?

The aim was always to stay up.

Put whatever slant on it you want, the team have underperformed! Is that down to the management? Very likely!

What did you expect from our first season back in the league following everything that happened in the summer?

OyinbO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:10 pm

BigDaddyO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:14 pm

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:46 pm

Put whatever slant on it you want, the team have underperformed! Is that down to the management? Very likely!

What did you expect from our first season back in the league following everything that happened in the summer?

To not fail to adequately replace our manager, even though we had three goes at it.

BigDaddyO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:14 pm

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:46 pm

BigDaddyO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:09 pm

'Whatever way you look at it the team has underperformed.'

Has it?

The aim was always to stay up.

Put whatever slant on it you want, the team have underperformed! Is that down to the management? Very likely!

What did you expect from our first season back in the league following everything that happened in the summer?

Redline wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:31 pm I’m just happy we are in L2 this season. But dull? Absolutely.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:36 am

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:15 pm The football has been awful to watch, all about doffing our cap to the opposition and showing them utmost respect to try and not let in a goal. Embleton shows no ambition to go out and try to dominate a game, especially at home so we end up with 90 minutes and 1 shot on target. ST sales will be interesting to see who stumps up for more of that next season.

Huxley makes a good point though, I've sat there at times this season and thought "yup, fair enough they're a good side and deserve the win... played some nice stuff" rather than "oh yet another bunch of thugs getting away with assault". NL really is a tinpot league, so glad we're out of it.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:36 pm

The dullest football we played all season was under Fletcher.

First half v Carlisle was the best football we've played at home this season. Shame the players are so unfit they couldn't keep it up for more than 45 minutes

That will be because its a 90 minute game and we shot our bolts.

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:11 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:36 am

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:15 pm The football has been awful to watch, all about doffing our cap to the opposition and showing them utmost respect to try and not let in a goal. Embleton shows no ambition to go out and try to dominate a game, especially at home so we end up with 90 minutes and 1 shot on target. ST sales will be interesting to see who stumps up for more of that next season.

Huxley makes a good point though, I've sat there at times this season and thought "yup, fair enough they're a good side and deserve the win... played some nice stuff" rather than "oh yet another bunch of thugs getting away with assault". NL really is a tinpot league, so glad we're out of it.



First half v Carlisle was the best football we've played at home this season. Shame the players are so unfit they couldn't keep it up for more than 45 minutes

That will be because its a 90 minute game and we shot our bolts.

That says more about how poor the fitness regime and conditioning has been this season than anything tactical. Along with the management it needs a serious review over summer as someone appears to have got their strategy very wrong when you look at the levels of other sides in the league.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:29 am

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:11 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:36 am

That will be because its a 90 minute game and we shot our bolts.

That says more about how poor the fitness regime and conditioning has been this season than anything tactical. Along with the management it needs a serious review over summer as someone appears to have got their strategy very wrong when you look at the levels of other sides in the league.

I disagree. I have not seen a side this season that could go at it for 90 minutes. League 2 just isn't like that - even at the top. We over-reached and got found out because we did not take advantage.

MayIPooOnYourKnee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:48 pm Brush season cant remember 02-03 , 03-04 . Painfu. Players like Marcus Ebdon, Carl Hutchings and Lee Thorpe.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:03 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:29 am

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:11 pm

That says more about how poor the fitness regime and conditioning has been this season than anything tactical. Along with the management it needs a serious review over summer as someone appears to have got their strategy very wrong when you look at the levels of other sides in the league.

I disagree. I have not seen a side this season that could go at it for 90 minutes. League 2 just isn't like that - even at the top. We over-reached and got found out because we did not take advantage.

Forest Green for starters, they kept running at us. Swindon as well so that's two for starters. Aside from Brophy our lot are one-paced and leggy by around the hour mark.

Compare Bonne and Koroma's fitness last season to Angol and Wilkinson this for instance. The levels just aren't there.