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WDWL is months of absolute sh*t?

Osal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:52 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:21 pm

So what was then said between you?

Asked him why we didn't utilise the wind like Cheltenham did ie, why we fanny around passing it around the back four when Cheltenham were getting through us in 5/6 passes.
Recall RE said something about scoring 2 goals against Mansfield playing that way.
I walked away thinking that RE won't adapt to teams we play or the conditions we play in. His way is the only way.

Must admit, those last two lines are a concern, you surely have to adapt to the opposition you are playing, there again what do I know, I am only a supporter, like you.

Yeah, imagine sticking to a way of playing that worked during a good run of form (not just the last game).

Bizarre that you’d conclude “his way is the only way” If that’s how the conversation went

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:40 pm Always surprised me when people dont stop saying how nice Ross is. Is my limited experience watching him on the touchline, he seems aggressive and aggy. He spent 5 minutes staring me out when I shouted something pretty general, and non sweary about our performance at the end of a game about 2 years ago. He's got a temper, for sure.

Him staring at you after you made a remark (which was probably something dumb judging by your track record) means he’s got a temper? Ok then

Very embarrassing that you got rattled by a bloke of about 5’3” making eye contact with you though. Grow a pair

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:44 am It’s called having an opinion and not being cowered into silence.

In short, it is freedom of speech.

Who’s saying the bloke isn’t allowed an opinion?

If you love freedom of speech so much why don’t you recognise Ross’s right to give his opinion back?

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:37 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:40 pm Always surprised me when people dont stop saying how nice Ross is. Is my limited experience watching him on the touchline, he seems aggressive and aggy. He spent 5 minutes staring me out when I shouted something pretty general, and non sweary about our performance at the end of a game about 2 years ago. He's got a temper, for sure.

Him staring at you after you made a remark (which was probably something dumb judging by your track record) means he’s got a temper? Ok then

Very embarrassing that you got rattled by a bloke of about 5’3” making eye contact with you though. Grow a pair

im only 5"2 though. Am i allowed to get rattled now?

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:44 am It’s called having an opinion and not being cowered into silence.

In short, it is freedom of speech.

So that 'disgrace' 16 months later Captains us to the League title.
Freedom of speech shouldn't give certain people license to be abusive, especially when most of the time they are wrong.
Let's show patience & give RE.

O my gawd wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:01 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:44 am It’s called having an opinion and not being cowered into silence.

In short, it is freedom of speech.

So that 'disgrace' 16 months later Captains us to the League title.
Freedom of speech shouldn't give certain people license to be abusive, especially when most of the time they are wrong.
Let's show patience & give RE.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leytono ... 23768.html

Regardless of what happened after, the players deserved the stick they were getting at that point in time.

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:34 am

Osal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:52 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:39 pm

Asked him why we didn't utilise the wind like Cheltenham did ie, why we fanny around passing it around the back four when Cheltenham were getting through us in 5/6 passes.
Recall RE said something about scoring 2 goals against Mansfield playing that way.
I walked away thinking that RE won't adapt to teams we play or the conditions we play in. His way is the only way.

Must admit, those last two lines are a concern, you surely have to adapt to the opposition you are playing, there again what do I know, I am only a supporter, like you.

Yeah, imagine sticking to a way of playing that worked during a good run of form (not just the last game).

Bizarre that you’d conclude “his way is the only way” If that’s how the conversation went

A good run of form???

I’d suggest that conditions on Saturday were not conducive to our usual pissing about with it at the back. And with an out and out front 3 of Johnson, Angol and Wilkinson, you absolutely should be going more direct.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:57 am

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:13 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:53 pm



Might this have been you ?

If not then it might explain why staff get involved with fans .
Wasnt this about more than football.

That ain't at Cheltenham Ground

You are a Bright spark aren't you .

Its questioning why people want to dig out players & management .
This was as said earlier against Solihull.

It clearly shows Jobi ( who in a thread that night was called a disgrace & should never be allowed to wear an orient shirt agin by some numpties on the old version of this board), losing it with a fan .

Maybe Ross wants to calm people by talking face to face & not deal with people who can be heard screaming abuse from 40 yards away.

So things like this dont happen at the club again.

I replied before I looked further down the thread, my error.
I was at the so called altercation at Cheltenham, I couldn't hear the "screaming abuse" both parties involved were well behaved, yes words were exchanged as does normally happen in conversation and both parties involved left the field firmly convinced the other one hasn't got a clue, so we move on to the next dismal display and repeat altercation.

They sure as hell know how to deliver a Bovril drink, so strong could use it as tarmac on M40, and M4

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:34 am WDWL is months of absolute sh*t?

Firstly, one of those wins is against Stevenage. Secondly, RE has been manager for all but about 2 weeks of this season. No amount of ‘interim’ and ‘caretaker’ titles will change that.

Stevenage doesnt count for some reason?

Dont be a pillock, you think it must be easy to pickup the reigns after Justin died?

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:09 am

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:34 am

Osal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:52 pm

Must admit, those last two lines are a concern, you surely have to adapt to the opposition you are playing, there again what do I know, I am only a supporter, like you.

Yeah, imagine sticking to a way of playing that worked during a good run of form (not just the last game).

Bizarre that you’d conclude “his way is the only way” If that’s how the conversation went

A good run of form???

I’d suggest that conditions on Saturday were not conducive to our usual p*ssing about with it at the back. And with an out and out front 3 of Johnson, Angol and Wilkinson, you absolutely should be going more direct.

I’d call 11 points from 6 games since Ross took the job permanently a good run of form, wouldn’t you?

I can't keep up with when he's been in or out, just googled and seen an article on bbc dated 7th January where he was appointed permanent manager. So assuming that date is correct, his results as permanent manager are as follows:

LEAGUE TWO Sa 11Jan 2020 Leyton Orient 1 - 1 Grimsby D
LEAGUE TWO Sa 18Jan 2020 Port Vale 1 - 0 Leyton Orient L
LEAGUE TWO Tu 21Jan 2020 Leyton Orient 1 - 1 Northampton D
LEAGUE TWO Sa 25Jan 2020 Leyton Orient 2 - 1 Newport Co W
LEAGUE TWO Tu 28Jan 2020 Crewe 2 - 0 Leyton Orient L
LEAGUE TWO Sa 01Feb 2020 Stevenage 0 - 3 Leyton Orient W
LEAGUE TWO Sa 08Feb 2020 Leyton Orient 1 - 1 Macclesfield D
LEAGUE TWO Tu 11Feb 2020 Leyton Orient 2 - 1 Mansfield W
LEAGUE TWO Sa 15Feb 2020 Cheltenham 2 - 1 Leyton Orient L

Which I make 3 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses from 9 games.

Yeah, fantastic form.

Its good form if you compare it to the games between Fletcher being sacked and Ross being given it permanently.

8 Games, 1 Win, 2 Draws, 5 Losses.

But apparently we can't judge him on that.

4 wins from 17 games since Fletch got the boot. Or relegation form as its also known.

Writtlered wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:28 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:30 pm Id rather Whittlered did the f*cking off to be fair

Ross & the boys have given far moreto the O's than he has.

I’ve give 22 years of season ticket hardship. I don’t get how you can still support this current regime? What do you think is going to happen next season?

So in that 22 years you’ve seen relegation, Orient going out the league etc etc yet your only bubbling about this season
Couldn’t make it up!!!

If you take the last 6 games, a usual indicator of form, then that's 3 wins, 1 draw and 2 defeats. So 10 points from 18, against some of the worst sides in this division. And that's with the new recruits like Cisse and Vigaro coming in.

It's understandably difficult to find any reason to be positive about next season.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:27 am Its good form if you compare it to the games between Fletcher being sacked and Ross being given it permanently.

8 Games, 1 Win, 2 Draws, 5 Losses.

But apparently we can't judge him on that.

Squad needed an overhaul, fair to judge him before that?

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:44 am If you take the last 6 games, a usual indicator of form, then that's 3 wins, 1 draw and 2 defeats. So 10 points from 18, against some of the worst sides in this division. And that's with the new recruits like Cisse and Vigaro coming in.

It's understandably difficult to find any reason to be positive about next season.

Those two defeats being against two top five sides.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:52 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:27 am Its good form if you compare it to the games between Fletcher being sacked and Ross being given it permanently.

8 Games, 1 Win, 2 Draws, 5 Losses.

But apparently we can't judge him on that.

Squad needed an overhaul, fair to judge him before that?

yes?

He took the job (about 3 times) knowing what we had. Overhaul isn't whats happened either.

Thats because we've only had the January window.

Should he have refused to be caretaker after Justin died? Or just because work needed to be done?

Not sure why you're being dense about this, thought you were an intelligent lefty.

I wonder if the fan involved will be at the meet the manager meeting on Wednesday ? Could be fun and games if he is

Not saying i agree with Fletchers sacking, he was right about overhauling the squad.

All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:17 pm All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

I also questioned this in an earlier thread.Showing inexperience methinks..