Vegan / Pesceterian diet.

[tuffers#1]

I'm on a vegan only diet.

But I think they're getting spooked now and are getting harder to catch.

[Chicken Dhansak]

We sometimes have red meat, not very often though, but we positively will not eat Lamb or Veal, or anything killed as a baby.
Absolutely horrendous. It's mainly chicken and fish that we eat, but I must say that I do like Linda McCartney vegetarian
sausages.

[Mikero]

I still have a freezer full of xmas goodies I bought cheap in January.

Mikero

[Thor]

We did talk about the food chain on here recently after I watched a program on it. One of the main take aways was the fact that we have crossed the point of supply over demand for the first time. We actually have a shortage against what is being consumed, think about that for a moment.

[tuffers#1]

Why do we need to think about it Thor ?

Supermarkets drive the need for product.

1 of the reasons they are driving vegan food products.

Amazing when you think about it.

Companies that for years have been a mainstay for the slaughter of aninals & now vegans are jumping in to buy product from these companies who have profited massively from animal slaughter for decades.

[tuffers#1]

Your arguments get ever more ridiculous. We are entitled in your view to kill sentient animals for food but presumably not other sentient beings - humans.
Utterly illogical. All sentient beings are entitled to not be killed for food in my view. I make no distinction.

I have never said humans as sentient beings should not be killed for food or any other reason.

I believe the taking of a human life is something that happens , not immoral or wrong etc.

The only time i believe it is wrong is when a state or govt
tell it should be so.

[Stowaway]

I eat fish and seafood but mostly my diet is vegetarian.
It’s partly a health thing, but mostly because I think that perhaps humans have reached a point in our development that we no longer need to kill animals for food. I can’t see how anyone can disagree with that.
I’m not saying I don’t miss meat sometimes, because there’s very little in the veggie diet that can match the texture of meat, but I don’t think the cruelty aspect is worth being able to chew hard once in a while.
One thing you hear is that bacon is the thing that vegetarians miss most. For me it was sausages, and I don’t actually miss bacon at all.

A bonus for me is that my cooking skills have improved hugely. You generally have to make more of an effort with spices and seasoning but it’s worth it. Tonight’s supper was a massaman curry, using sweet potato/potato/red pepper and green beans instead of beef. My first attempt and it was bloody ace.

[Stowaway]

Your arguments get ever more ridiculous. We are entitled in your view to kill sentient animals for food but presumably not other sentient beings - humans.
Utterly illogical. All sentient beings are entitled to not be killed for food in my view. I make no distinction.

I believe the taking of a human life is something that happens , not immoral or wrong etc.

The only time i believe it is wrong is when a state or govt
tell it should be so.

You believe that the killing of a human is not wrong? Um, ok.

You’re a bit weird, aren’t you?

[Stowaway]

Your arguments get ever more ridiculous. We are entitled in your view to kill sentient animals for food but presumably not other sentient beings - humans.
Utterly illogical. All sentient beings are entitled to not be killed for food in my view. I make no distinction.

I believe the taking of a human life is something that happens , not immoral or wrong etc.

The only time i believe it is wrong is when a state or govt
tell it should be so.

You believe that the killing of a human is not wrong? Um, ok.

You’re a bit weird, aren’t you?

[PhoenixO]

I eat fish and seafood but mostly my diet is vegetarian.
It’s partly a health thing, but mostly because I think that perhaps humans have reached a point in our development that we no longer need to kill animals for food. I can’t see how anyone can disagree with that.
I’m not saying I don’t miss meat sometimes, because there’s very little in the veggie diet that can match the texture of meat, but I don’t think the cruelty aspect is worth being able to chew hard once in a while.
One thing you hear is that bacon is the thing that vegetarians miss most. For me it was sausages, and I don’t actually miss bacon at all.

A bonus for me is that my cooking skills have improved hugely. You generally have to make more of an effort with spices and seasoning but it’s worth it. Tonight’s supper was a massaman curry, using sweet potato/potato/red pepper and green beans instead of beef. My first attempt and it was bloody ace.

fish and seafood are meat

[tuffers#1]

Your arguments get ever more ridiculous. We are entitled in your view to kill sentient animals for food but presumably not other sentient beings - humans.
Utterly illogical. All sentient beings are entitled to not be killed for food in my view. I make no distinction.

I believe the taking of a human life is something that happens , not immoral or wrong etc.

The only time i believe it is wrong is when a state or govt
tell it should be so.

You believe that the killing of a human is not wrong? Um, ok.

You’re a bit weird, aren’t you?

If you came home & found a man assaulting fiddling with your 10 year old child &
You had a hammer in your hand , would you not impale the hammer into the skull of the
Perpetrator ?

Or any member of your family being beaten demeaned etc ?

I dont mean randomly just kill someone for the sake of it .

Humans kill
Its in us to do so .

It is not for me to apportion guilt to someone who takes a life .

Human beings have taken themselves away from what we are in the
pursuit of civilisation .

Yet we can send millions to there death in the name of war or freedom &
Not really care because we can wallow in the glory of victory.

[tuffers#1]

Your arguments get ever more ridiculous. We are entitled in your view to kill sentient animals for food but presumably not other sentient beings - humans.
Utterly illogical. All sentient beings are entitled to not be killed for food in my view. I make no distinction.

I believe the taking of a human life is something that happens , not immoral or wrong etc.

The only time i believe it is wrong is when a state or govt
tell it should be so.

You believe that the killing of a human is not wrong? Um, ok.

You’re a bit weird, aren’t you?

If you came home & found a man assaulting fiddling with your 10 year old child &
You had a hammer in your hand , would you not impale the hammer into the skull of the
Perpetrator ?

Or any member of your family being beaten demeaned etc ?

I dont mean randomly just kill someone for the sake of it .

Humans kill 
Its in us to do so .

It is not for me to apportion guilt to someone who takes a life .

Human beings have taken themselves away from what we are in the 
pursuit of civilisation .

Yet we can send millions to there death in the name of war or freedom & 
Not really care because we can wallow in the glory of victory.

[Millennial Snowflake]

Be interested to know how the vegans/occasional meat eaters on here manage to get enough protein and what alternative sources they use

[PhoenixO]

Be interested to know how the vegans/occasional meat eaters on here manage to get enough protein and what alternative sources they use

Tofu, Tempeh and Edamame Seitan Lentils Chickpeas and Most Varieties of Beans Nutritional Yeast Spelt and Teff Hempseed Spirulina to name but a few

[tuffers#1]

Chickpeas are lovely Spirulina or any edible sea weed for that matter made correctly is divine .

Im sure there is a vegan friendly irish moss available with soy milk .
Barley is great in a casserole whether it is veg or meat based
Lentils edible but bland , Flax is meant to be very good for the heart
Full of omega 3 .

Dont forget to make sure you all consume your fermented food group

Got to be kind to the gut

[Thor]

I believe the taking of a human life is something that happens , not immoral or wrong etc.

The only time i believe it is wrong is when a state or govt
tell it should be so.

You believe that the killing of a human is not wrong? Um, ok.

You’re a bit weird, aren’t you?

If you came home & found a man assaulting fiddling with your 10 year old child &
You had a hammer in your hand , would you not impale the hammer into the skull of the
Perpetrator ?

Or any member of your family being beaten demeaned etc ?

I dont mean randomly just kill someone for the sake of it .

Humans kill
Its in us to do so .

It is not for me to apportion guilt to someone who takes a life .

Human beings have taken themselves away from what we are in the
pursuit of civilisation .

Yet we can send millions to there death in the name of war or freedom &
Not really care because we can wallow in the glory of victory.

It shouldn’t be, god told us not to, it’s in the 10 commandments.

[Kitch’s Magic Toes]

I have been Pescatarian for five or six months. Avoid fish where stocks are low (I.e. cod) and not responsibly sourced. Don’t think I could ever go completely vegetarian as I don’t like enough pulses to have them as a staple. I don’t actually miss any meats, but I do miss a proper roast dinner.

[tuffers#1]

You believe that the killing of a human is not wrong? Um, ok.

You’re a bit weird, aren’t you?

If you came home & found a man assaulting fiddling with your 10 year old child &
You had a hammer in your hand , would you not impale the hammer into the skull of the
Perpetrator ?

Or any member of your family being beaten demeaned etc ?

I dont mean randomly just kill someone for the sake of it .

Humans kill
Its in us to do so .

It is not for me to apportion guilt to someone who takes a life .

Human beings have taken themselves away from what we are in the
pursuit of civilisation .

Yet we can send millions to there death in the name of war or freedom &
Not really care because we can wallow in the glory of victory.

It shouldn’t be, god told us not to, it’s in the 10 commandments.

" I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:23-26

Personally i dont ascribe to man made religions

[slacker]

I don’t eat a lot of meat these days, and definitely swerve the obviously industrial cheapo stuff/junk processed crap, like my vegetables and am usually happy to have veggie meals.

But I don’t think I’d want to bin it off completely, nor forgo dairy products.

[Currywurst and Chips]

We sometimes have red meat, not very often though, but we positively will not eat Lamb or Veal, or anything killed as a baby.
Absolutely horrendous. It's mainly chicken and fish that we eat, but I must say that I do like Linda McCartney vegetarian
sausages.

Chickens are routinely slaughtered at 6-8 weeks old

[LittleMate]

Be interested to know how the vegans/occasional meat eaters on here manage to get enough protein and what alternative sources they use

I'm told that vitamin B12 can be an issue for vegans, so my daughter takes a supplement, but he also tells me its an issue for non-vegans as the fertilisers used these days have washed a lot of the B12 from the agricultural system.

[Currywurst and Chips]

Be interested to know how the vegans/occasional meat eaters on here manage to get enough protein and what alternative sources they use

I'm told that vitamin B12 can be an issue for vegans, so my daughter takes a supplement, but he also tells me its an issue for non-vegans as the fertilisers used these days have washed a lot of the B12 from the agricultural system.

She's wise to supplement, B12 defeciency amongst Vegans differ study to study but is consistently above 50%. For meat eaters it is a negligible amount

The fertiliser issue deprives plants of B12 which becomes an issue for vegans not meat eaters. Omnivores get copious amounts of B12 from eating animal products

[LittleMate]

Be interested to know how the vegans/occasional meat eaters on here manage to get enough protein and what alternative sources they use

I'm told that vitamin B12 can be an issue for vegans, so my daughter takes a supplement, but he also tells me its an issue for non-vegans as the fertilisers used these days have washed a lot of the B12 from the agricultural system.

She's wise to supplement, B12 defeciency amongst Vegans differ study to study but is consistently above 50%. For meat eaters it is a negligible amount

The fertiliser issue deprives plants of B12 which becomes an issue for vegans not meat eaters. Omnivores get copious amounts of B12 from eating animal products

Ok, ty

[Millennial Snowflake]

Be interested to know how the vegans/occasional meat eaters on here manage to get enough protein and what alternative sources they use

Tofu, Tempeh and Edamame Seitan Lentils Chickpeas and Most Varieties of Beans Nutritional Yeast Spelt and Teff Hempseed Spirulina to name but a few

None of those have anywhere near as much protein as meat though, and plant-based protein is inferior to animal-based protein.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Be interested to know how the vegans/occasional meat eaters on here manage to get enough protein and what alternative sources they use

Tofu, Tempeh and Edamame Seitan Lentils Chickpeas and Most Varieties of Beans Nutritional Yeast Spelt and Teff Hempseed Spirulina to name but a few

None of those have anywhere near as much protein as meat though, and plant-based protein is inferior to animal-based protein.

The absolute state of most peoples diets, and people have the nerve to query where a vegan is getting all their requirements from.