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Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pm
by Father Ted Crilly
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm
Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.
Good point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.
Boris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men.
They won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:21 am
by Disoriented
Why is it all these touted candidates look a bit weird?
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:44 am
by Dunners
Clive Lewis has thrown his hat in the ring. Wants to increase democratisation within the party and push for proportional representation.
He will be liked by the membership.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:04 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
He’s naturally likeable.
Ticks lots of boxes to appeal to a wide range of people. Left enough, not in London bubble, done a war, not too brown. I’m behind this.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 am
by Sid Bishop
Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pm
Good point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.
Boris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men.
They won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.
Crystal ball gazing again !
Is that the same Crystal Ball you and many other left wingers on this forum have been using over the past few years when so many things you have predicted have turned out completely wrong, including predictions of the Labour party sweeping to power in the last two elections. If true, then a new Crystal ball required !
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:31 am
by ComeOnYouOs
I put Clive Lewis's name forward yesterday, and he wasnt in the race.
He obviously looks at this board, and decided if i favour him, it must be a good idea to stand
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:39 am
by Thor
Labour will appoint a women next time, just a matter of who. If I were a betting man I'd say Raynor would be the lady picked.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:45 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm
Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.
Good point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.
Boris has charisma and has charm, ,
has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney
and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men and as you yourself wrote.......'' Starmer always looks twitchy/nervy to me'' something you cannot say of Boris !
Sometimes there are no words.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:27 pm
by Father Ted Crilly
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 am
Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
Boris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men.
They won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.
Crystal ball gazing again !
Is that the same Crystal Ball you and many other left wingers on this forum have been using over the past few years when so many things you have predicted have turned out completely wrong, including predictions of the Labour party sweeping to power in the last two elections. If true, then a new Crystal ball required !
Let's see in 5 years time.
Moving away from predictions though, I can say with complete certainty that you're an insufferable cock. And a bore.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:32 pm
by Clive Evans
I forgot to put in original post. Candidate must be able to withstand being totally trashed by the media. Who will even put private detectives on the trail of their Great Aunt Mildred if they find the candidate to be squeaky clean. Like I say, all you posters who go for women, please remember most Trade Unionists 'ate women ( how many women have you seen down a coal mine?)
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:40 pm
by Dunners
Could Labour just put in a bid for Sturgeon?
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:43 pm
by Sid Bishop
Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:27 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 am
Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pm
They won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.
Crystal ball gazing again !
Is that the same Crystal Ball you and many other left wingers on this forum have been using over the past few years when so many things you have predicted have turned out completely wrong, including predictions of the Labour party sweeping to power in the last two elections. If true, then a new Crystal ball required !
Let's see in 5 years time.
Moving away from predictions though, I can say with complete certainty that you're an insufferable cock. And a bore.
Nothing at all clever about having to resort to name calling and personal insults, proves nothing other than that you have lost the argument.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:10 pm
by Lucky7
Thor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:39 am
Labour will appoint a women next time, just a matter of who. If I were a betting man I'd say Raynor would be the lady picked.
If you said Rayner you might save your money
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:15 pm
by Lucky7
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm
Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.
Good point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.
Boris has no charisma and less charm, , has got a plummy accent, makes people grimace with his clown like antics, has got all the lies and can’t relate to working class people.
Fixed that for you Sid
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:33 pm
by Sid Bishop
Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:15 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pm
Good point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.
Boris has no charisma and less charm, , has got a plummy accent, makes people grimace with his clown like antics, has got all the lies and can’t relate to working class people.
Fixed that for you Sid
Oh great comment ! Well if that is all really true, then does not say much for Corbyns Labour party in losing so many seats to such bad opposition does it !! Makes me wonder what Conservatives would have done if they had chosen a far better leader.......Labour down to 50 seats ?
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:02 pm
by oxo
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm
Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.
Good point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.
Boris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men and as you yourself wrote.......'' Starmer always looks twitchy/nervy to me'' something you cannot say of Boris !
All politics aside, in what universe does Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson not have a plummy accent? He's so posh he's barely comprehensible half the time.
Re: Prerequisites For Labour's Next Leader
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:23 pm
by oxo
Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:21 am
Why is it all these touted candidates look a bit weird?
Most people look a bit weird. It's even worse in front of the camera cos we're so used to seeing really photogenic people on tv, in newspapers and magazines, etc