They won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pmBoris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men.RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pmGood point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.
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Clive Lewis has thrown his hat in the ring. Wants to increase democratisation within the party and push for proportional representation.
He will be liked by the membership.
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He’s naturally likeable.
Ticks lots of boxes to appeal to a wide range of people. Left enough, not in London bubble, done a war, not too brown. I’m behind this.
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Crystal ball gazing again !Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pmThey won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pmBoris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men.
Is that the same Crystal Ball you and many other left wingers on this forum have been using over the past few years when so many things you have predicted have turned out completely wrong, including predictions of the Labour party sweeping to power in the last two elections. If true, then a new Crystal ball required !
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I put Clive Lewis's name forward yesterday, and he wasnt in the race.
He obviously looks at this board, and decided if i favour him, it must be a good idea to stand
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Labour will appoint a women next time, just a matter of who. If I were a betting man I'd say Raynor would be the lady picked.
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Sometimes there are no words.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pmBoris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men and as you yourself wrote.......'' Starmer always looks twitchy/nervy to me'' something you cannot say of Boris !RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pmGood point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.

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Let's see in 5 years time.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 amCrystal ball gazing again !Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pmThey won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pm
Boris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men.
Is that the same Crystal Ball you and many other left wingers on this forum have been using over the past few years when so many things you have predicted have turned out completely wrong, including predictions of the Labour party sweeping to power in the last two elections. If true, then a new Crystal ball required !
Moving away from predictions though, I can say with complete certainty that you're an insufferable cock. And a bore.
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I forgot to put in original post. Candidate must be able to withstand being totally trashed by the media. Who will even put private detectives on the trail of their Great Aunt Mildred if they find the candidate to be squeaky clean. Like I say, all you posters who go for women, please remember most Trade Unionists 'ate women ( how many women have you seen down a coal mine?)
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Nothing at all clever about having to resort to name calling and personal insults, proves nothing other than that you have lost the argument.Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:27 pmLet's see in 5 years time.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 amCrystal ball gazing again !Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pm
They won’t be laughing after another 5 years of Tory rule.
Is that the same Crystal Ball you and many other left wingers on this forum have been using over the past few years when so many things you have predicted have turned out completely wrong, including predictions of the Labour party sweeping to power in the last two elections. If true, then a new Crystal ball required !
Moving away from predictions though, I can say with complete certainty that you're an insufferable cock. And a bore.
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Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pmRedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pmGood point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.
Boris has no charisma and less charm, , has got a plummy accent, makes people grimace with his clown like antics, has got all the lies and can’t relate to working class people.
Fixed that for you Sid
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Oh great comment ! Well if that is all really true, then does not say much for Corbyns Labour party in losing so many seats to such bad opposition does it !! Makes me wonder what Conservatives would have done if they had chosen a far better leader.......Labour down to 50 seats ?Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:15 pm
Boris has no charisma and less charm, , has got a plummy accent, makes people grimace with his clown like antics, has got all the lies and can’t relate to working class people.
Fixed that for you Sid
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All politics aside, in what universe does Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson not have a plummy accent? He's so posh he's barely comprehensible half the time.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:30 pmBoris has charisma and has charm, , has NOT got a plummy accent, makes people laugh with his clown like antics, has got all the blarney and can relate to working class people. Starmer has zero charisma, does NOT make people laugh, is sour-faced and is unable to relate to working class people as Boris can. No comparison at all between the two men and as you yourself wrote.......'' Starmer always looks twitchy/nervy to me'' something you cannot say of Boris !RedO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 pmGood point, there's no way Joe Northener would vote for a self-opinionated, upper class type of character with a plummy sort of accent, who talks over everyone else and only listens to anyone if they agree with him.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:19 pm Starmer has little to no charisma, from the same school of thought as Thornberry and comes across to me as a rather upper-class type of a character with a ''Plummy'' sort of accent who only listens to anyone if they agree with him. Another who would be a bad choice is Evette Cooper, a very self opinionated woman who like Thornberry, talks over everyone else when on question time and other similar programs, so rude when people do that ! As a non Labour voter, I think Lisa Nandy and Hillary Benn always come across as calm, polite and sensible MP's who would relate far better to the average Labour voters across the UK.
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Most people look a bit weird. It's even worse in front of the camera cos we're so used to seeing really photogenic people on tv, in newspapers and magazines, etcDisoriented wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:21 am Why is it all these touted candidates look a bit weird?