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Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:08 pm
by jamespevans
Redcard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:38 pm
Of course corbyn is an anti Semite, were he no he would sue his accusers for millions.
Much of his anti semitism is disguised by his obsessive attacks on Israel the only Jewish state the size of wales.
He regularly attends anti Israel events and shares platforms with terrorists calling for the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews. He is at the forefront of rallies against Israel when they retaliate against the thousands of rockets fired for Gaza , and calls the resulting death of Approx 3500 Palestinians war crimes. One must ask why he doesn’t show the same enthusiasm and activism against the Syrians and their Russian allies who have been responsible for over 700,000 dead and 12 million displaced.
Laying a wreath at the grave of the mastermind of the Munich olympics massacre says everything you need to know about corbyn, as does his campaigning against the removal of a blatantly anti Semitic
He has opposed the removal of other labour anti semites, and has stood by at a meeting where a member was shouting anti Semitic obscenities at a Jewish MP, enjoying a cost chat with him after.
He is not only an anti Semite , but he is a lying snake .
So should we put you down as a maybe for 12th December?
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:09 pm
by Father Ted Crilly
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:52 pm
Redcard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:44 pm
Red army, corbyn knows full well that there is not a chance in hell of all his ridiculous bribes being implemented . It’s just not financially viable, unless of course he has arranged for the village idiot Abbott to cost them all.
One does have to wonder why, of all the utter incompetents and charlatans that sit in parliament, you choose to call Diane Abbott the village idiot. I think we can have a pretty good guess.
This intrigued me as well. I wonder what it is that inspires so much abuse towards Diane Abbott.......
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:53 pm
by Max B Gold
I'm wondering if introducing some actual evidence into the debt might help.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk ... HUFqBjIYDM
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:45 pm
by Eat The Rich
It was written by the wrong kind of Jews, Max. You should know that. All Jews hate Corbyn. I SAID ALL JEWS HATE CORBYN, DAMN YOU!!!
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:47 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:43 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:16 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:58 am
But, but if you moderate centerists shiteout of the debate us extremists win. I didn't have you down as a spineless Yella bellied loser.
Rarely have I ever been one to dip out of a debate, far from it. But I’m intelligent enough to realise when a debate will lead nowhere sensible. Better things to do. As for extremists winning. Don’t think so, I have more faith in human nature.
As usual, once cornered and beaten you exit the debate. No doubt you'll be back in a minute to call me a child.
If you see it that way it’s up to you, I don’t mind. Your opinions mean less that zero to me.
when I see a debate going where that one was I’m far too grown up to indulge in such ridiculous extremism. Life’s too short. I’m acting like an adult who doesn’t want to waste time. You should try it. Growing up that is. I’m sure nature will make sure you grow older but I doubt you will grow wiser. Shame.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:50 pm
by Long slender neck
Yes so grown up to suddenly start calling people on here extremists.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:09 pm
by Article_50
Redcard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:38 pm
Of course Corbyn is an anti Semite, were he no he would sue his accusers for millions.
Much of his anti semitism is disguised by his obsessive attacks on Israel the only Jewish state the size of wales.
He regularly attends anti Israel events and shares platforms with terrorists calling for the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews. He is at the forefront of rallies against Israel when they retaliate against the thousands of rockets fired for Gaza , and calls the resulting death of Approx 3500 Palestinians war crimes. One must ask why he doesn’t show the same enthusiasm and activism against the Syrians and their Russian allies who have been responsible for over 700,000 dead and 12 million displaced.
Laying a wreath at the grave of the mastermind of the Munich olympics massacre says everything you need to know about corbyn, as does his campaigning against the removal of a blatantly anti Semitic
He has opposed the removal of other labour anti semites, and has stood by at a meeting where a member was shouting anti Semitic obscenities at a Jewish MP, enjoying a cost chat with him after.
He is not only an anti Semite , but he is a lying snake .
100% correct, but you have insulted a few snakes
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:26 pm
by George M
Not sure why 2-300 thousand people entitled to vote should be given the opportunity to influence the vote of the remainder of the population. It’s no big loss if they don’t vote labour. Just another example of the minority becoming the liberal majority
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:28 pm
by Redcard
Eat the rich, father ted , it’s bloody obvious why I refer to Abbott as the village idiot, she is just that. Nothing more sinister despite your inferences. If in doubt look at the video of her stating labour are going to employ police @ £3 per annum, or the one when confronted by Andrew marse as to why she voted against proscribing a list of terrorist organizations inc al queda, Islamic Jihad ect she says that some of them were just dissidents. When he individually named each organization and spoke of their atrocities and asker her specifically which of them were just dissidents she rambled on in her usual incoherent manner and couldn’t, or refused to answer. Among all the idiots I have seen in parliament she reigns supreme.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:31 pm
by Redcard
George, According to your view then we should ban all organizations or individuals from trying to influence the outcome , or is just Jews you want to silence.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:31 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:26 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:20 pm
After Labour gets stuffed in this election Corbyn will be swiftly removed as the leader of the Labour Party
If he doesn't become PM and if it looks like the Tories are going to be a relatively stable government then yes, he will step down. The next leader will almost certainly be Angela Rayner imho just because the membership is not going to vote for a Right-Winger like Jess Phillips and the rest of the field doesn't look ready or willing. Then we'll see that the problem wasn't Corbyn because the hatchets will be out for Rayner just as much as they were for Corbyn. She'll be called a red under the bed, a terrorist loving, Britain hating, economically illiterate menace to public safety... and that'll be just Laura Kunsberg's article Hopefully the penny will eventually drop with people that the problem isn't Corbyn, or Ed Miliband or Angela Rayner or the Labour Party. The problem is that the news is run by vastly wealthy Tory donors who have a vested interest in a Tory government.
I’m not convinced the Torres will have a workable majority. Though I would be surprised if they weren’t the biggest party. Brexit apart, I sincerely hope Corbyn steps down. If so it will probably be the only good thing to come from this mess. The Brexit mess will just roll on and on. I’ve never been so sick of a word.
Tbh I’ve not really looked at alternatives to Corbyn. Should he step down that will be an interesting situation.
As for your comments about us all being extremist, that is just beyond my comprehension. Sounds like an extremist justifying their own bias.
But I do switch allegiances, I thought Thatcher was exactly what this country needed at that time, equally I rated Blair too until he screwed up. Both made mistakes, both did a lot of good. Both light years ahead of the current knobs.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:36 pm
by Eat The Rich
Its absolutely despicable how people have these double standards. The government you voted for and want people to vote for again is literally complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of disabled people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll take no lecture from a Tory on ethics. If you voted for the party that brought us Universal Credit and humiliating disability assessments that are impossible to pass even if you're at deaths door then you are a total and utter scumbag. Its as simple as that. You forfeit the right to criticise or lecture anyone.
*To be clear this is in reply to Redcard and Article_50.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:39 pm
by Max B Gold
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:45 pm
It was written by the wrong kind of Jews, Max. You should know that. All Jews hate Corbyn. I SAID ALL JEWS HATE CORBYN, DAMN YOU!!!
Yeah suppose so. But the Chief Rabbi only represents some 30% of his co-religionists. If anti semitism is such a big thing why are the ultra orthodox, liberal, progressive and reform congregations not issuing similar statements. It's a bit of a mystery.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:43 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:39 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:45 pm
It was written by the wrong kind of Jews, Max. You should know that. All Jews hate Corbyn. I SAID ALL JEWS HATE CORBYN, DAMN YOU!!!
Yeah suppose so. But the Chief Rabbi only represents some 30% of his co-religionists. If anti semitism is such a big thing why are the ultra orthodox, liberal, progressive and reform congregations not issuing similar statements. It's a bit of a mystery.
Too scared of reprisals Max.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:51 pm
by Eat The Rich
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:43 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:39 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:45 pm
It was written by the wrong kind of Jews, Max. You should know that. All Jews hate Corbyn. I SAID ALL JEWS HATE CORBYN, DAMN YOU!!!
Yeah suppose so. But the Chief Rabbi only represents some 30% of his co-religionists. If anti semitism is such a big thing why are the ultra orthodox, liberal, progressive and reform congregations not issuing similar statements. It's a bit of a mystery.
Too scared of reprisals Max.
Oh do f*ck off. Reprisals? How has a row between two Jews (Ruth Smeeth & Jackie Walker) become stormtroopers stalking the streets in red rosettes. Absolutely scandalous talk for you D'Oh. You want to call me a an extremist? What a brass neck you've got.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:33 pm
by Dunners
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:26 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:20 pm
After Labour gets stuffed in this election Corbyn will be swiftly removed as the leader of the Labour Party
If he doesn't become PM and if it looks like the Tories are going to be a relatively stable government then yes, he will step down. The next leader will almost certainly be Angela Rayner imho just because the membership is not going to vote for a Right-Winger like Jess Phillips....
I could see them possibly going for Kier. If Labour were to end up as the largest party in a hung parliament, I could see Labour securing SNP and Lib Dem support, but on condition that Corbyn walks. And Kier would be right up their street.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:55 pm
by Eat The Rich
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:33 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:26 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:20 pm
After Labour gets stuffed in this election Corbyn will be swiftly removed as the leader of the Labour Party
If he doesn't become PM and if it looks like the Tories are going to be a relatively stable government then yes, he will step down. The next leader will almost certainly be Angela Rayner imho just because the membership is not going to vote for a Right-Winger like Jess Phillips....
I could see them possibly going for Kier. If Labour were to end up as the largest party in a hung parliament, I could see Labour securing SNP and Lib Dem support, but on condition that Corbyn walks. And Kier would be right up their street.
I can promise you, absolutely promise you, that Corbyn's position will not be on the negotiating table. He will go during the next parliament. I am sure of it. For christ's sake he'll be 75 if the next election isn't until 2024, if he were to stay until then and win that election and serve a full term as PM he'd be 79 by the time the next one rolls around! Its not going to happen. What Labour will not allow, though, is other parties to dictate who the Labour party leader is. Labour could just as easily turn around and say that Jo Swinson is an impediment to any agreement and only talk turkey if she got the boot. I don't think the LD's would react well and rightly so.
No, the succession process will begin during the next parliament, and on Corbyn's terms, given the overwhelming good will that he still enjoys from the membership. Obviously if the election is a catastrophe he would step down immediately.
I don't think Kier Starmer wants to be leader, I don't think he has what it takes to be leader either. He's just too...dull. The labour movement wants to be inspired, its lifeblood is its activist base. If they aren't inspired then I think Labour struggles or it adopts the Blair approach and ditches ordinary people entirely and goes straight to the mega rich and starts handing out favours for cash.
If you fancy a flutter getcha money on Angela Rayner. Her main challenger will be Jess 'rent-a-gob' Phillips who will represent the right of the party. Dark horses are the fantastic Laura Pidcock and Richard Burgon. I'd think Pidcock over Burgon though.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:57 pm
by Bluecap
Who cares a sh*t.
You have all made your minds up.
You all have an agenda.
This is a football site.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:24 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:43 pm
by Thor
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:36 pm
Its absolutely despicable how people have these double standards. The government you voted for and want people to vote for again is literally complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of disabled people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll take no lecture from a Tory on ethics. If you voted for the party that brought us Universal Credit and humiliating disability assessments that are impossible to pass even if you're at deaths door then you are a total and utter scumbag. Its as simple as that. You forfeit the right to criticise or lecture anyone.
*To be clear this is in reply to Redcard and Article_50.
A couple of points if I may.
Hundreds of thousands dead? Never heard that previously other than on here. Any links to prove this claim?
Universal credit will be taken forward by labour, with slight changes. It's on labour's own site.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:07 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:55 am
What's that supposed to mean and what relevance does that link have?
No relevance, because the timing of this is entirely coincidental, as I've written above.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:11 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:55 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:33 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:26 pm
If he doesn't become PM and if it looks like the Tories are going to be a relatively stable government then yes, he will step down. The next leader will almost certainly be Angela Rayner imho just because the membership is not going to vote for a Right-Winger like Jess Phillips....
I could see them possibly going for Kier. If Labour were to end up as the largest party in a hung parliament, I could see Labour securing SNP and Lib Dem support, but on condition that Corbyn walks. And Kier would be right up their street.
I can promise you, absolutely promise you, that Corbyn's position will not be on the negotiating table. He will go during the next parliament. I am sure of it. For christ's sake he'll be 75 if the next election isn't until 2024, if he were to stay until then and win that election and serve a full term as PM he'd be 79 by the time the next one rolls around! Its not going to happen. What Labour will not allow, though, is other parties to dictate who the Labour party leader is. Labour could just as easily turn around and say that Jo Swinson is an impediment to any agreement and only talk turkey if she got the boot. I don't think the LD's would react well and rightly so.
No, the succession process will begin during the next parliament, and on Corbyn's terms, given the overwhelming good will that he still enjoys from the membership. Obviously if the election is a catastrophe he would step down immediately.
I don't think Kier Starmer wants to be leader, I don't think he has what it takes to be leader either. He's just too...dull. The labour movement wants to be inspired, its lifeblood is its activist base. If they aren't inspired then I think Labour struggles or it adopts the Blair approach and ditches ordinary people entirely and goes straight to the mega rich and starts handing out favours for cash.
If you fancy a flutter getcha money on Angela Rayner. Her main challenger will be Jess 'rent-a-gob' Phillips who will represent the right of the party. Dark horses are the fantastic Laura Pidcock and Richard Burgon. I'd think Pidcock over Burgon though.
I'm expecting Labour and SNP to be able to come to an arrangement without the need for the Lib dems assistance, thankfully.
He'll no doubt have to give them their indy ref but he won't be going anywhere, I agree.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:14 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:51 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:43 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:39 pm
Yeah suppose so. But the Chief Rabbi only represents some 30% of his co-religionists. If anti semitism is such a big thing why are the ultra orthodox, liberal, progressive and reform congregations not issuing similar statements. It's a bit of a mystery.
Too scared of reprisals Max.
Oh do f*ck off. Reprisals? How has a row between two Jews (Ruth Smeeth & Jackie Walker) become stormtroopers stalking the streets in red rosettes. Absolutely scandalous talk for you D'Oh. You want to call me a an extremist? What a brass neck you've got.
Reprisals from alledged Labour supporters against people who don’t follow the party line. What ever next. Bodyguards at a party conference.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:29 pm
by E10EU
Thanks for posting this.
Maybe Andrew Neil from the BBC could benefit from this information. His interview of Corbyn was an embarrassment to journalism with his blinkered hectoring.
Re: Chief Rabbi speaks
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:36 pm
by Max B Gold
E10EU wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:29 pm
Thanks for posting this.
Maybe Andrew Neil from the BBC could benefit from this information. His interview of Corbyn was an embarrassment to journalism with his blinkered hectoring.
He did the same with Nicola last night. Continually interrupted her.
It was really annoying as I wanted to hear her answers and she doesn't exactly evade questions they way a lot of them do.
Factoid - Neil went to the same school as my Mrs. She too often interrupts me.
