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Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:58 pm
by spen666
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:30 pm
Intentionally causing distress is against the law, the club should report it.
It isn't you know!
It depends how its done. Causing distress on its own is not an offence
Otherwise you could argue every West Ham should be arrested as there existence is distressing to you
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:00 am
by spen666
JimbO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:46 pm
Sorry from the way embleton reacted think there's something in what he claims to be true. There was nothing in the goal or the game to make him go like that.
Cooper obviously done something or why else was he yellow carded. Bit like the way a fouled player gets sent off for retaliation.
Cooper got booked for his reaction to Ross throwing something at him? We don't know, so its all speculation
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:04 am
by spen666
The last picture in that article is of the tributes to JE outside Brisbane Road in the summer, but is captioned
Tributes were paid at Sincil Bank over the summer as Leyton Orient fans mourned his passing
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:06 am
by tuffers#1
He would probably deny this if it wasnt on camera.
Bloke has a mouth on him .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.somers ... 149734.amp
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:14 am
by Horient
I have just read a comment on the FGR forum that has suggested the comment about Justin, if even true as alleged by our ‘rookie’ manager, was meant as a compliment...
They might be vegans but they are f*cking brutal.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:07 am
by Ornchurch
The claim on what was has got to be true as it is not something that would be made up by anyone connected to Orient.
At the same time it is something so disgraceful that FGR have to deny it being said.
Thing is that there are some people out there who will say anything to get a reaction. Seems that Cooper is one of those people.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:08 am
by Disoriented
Huxley wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:18 pm
Apparently said something along the lines of “you’re a Justin Edinburgh imposter” to Ross, hence why he went nuts and got sent off.
Sickening if true.
Disgraceful cheap shot.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:21 am
by eagwgw
If there are no witnesses it's gonna be his word against Ross's.
I don't believe Ross is a liar, but let's face it, it is not as if he is a calm man sent over the edge, he has regularly been volatile on the touchline, this might go against him.
It seems like a real low blow, but I can't really see what there is to prevent any other manager from doing in future. Was there bad blood previous between them? Him, Embleton and Ling had some Swindon connection.
Needs to be a disrepute charge slapped on here but despite the outrage I can't see it coming.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:57 am
by Still's Carenae
The 4th official should obviously picked this up. Or was he like the ref in FGR colours, or cocked a deafen.
There were plenty of witnesses, just how many are neutral is the issue.
But bearing in mind how Ross has acted previously, this is totally out of character.
So although not a neutral, I can only believe Ross.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:02 am
by Fanny
Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:57 am
The 4th official should obviously picked this up. Or was he like the ref in FGR colours, or cocked a deafen.
There were plenty of witnesses, just how many are neutral is the issue.
But bearing in mind how Ross has acted previously, this is totally out of character.
So although not a neutral, I can only believe Ross.
I wouldn’t say it’s entirely out of character. Ross lost his sh*t at Bromley away last season and got sent off there. Although can’t say I blame him for that one either.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:03 am
by Chief crazy horse
I think a lot of fans are getting distracted here. What went on yesterday wasn't nice, and it needs to get sorted quickly, which I'm sure it will do. But what also went on yesterday is that we lost yet again, and we are dropping like a stone into the relegation mire.
Big things are wrong at this club at the moment and it needs to get fixed soonest. This is what we should be concentrating on, never mind anything else.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:25 am
by Still's Carenae
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:03 am
I think a lot of fans are getting distracted here. What went on yesterday wasn't nice, and it needs to get sorted quickly, which I'm sure it will do. But what also went on yesterday is that we lost yet again, and we are dropping like a stone into the relegation mire.
Big things are wrong at this club at the moment and it needs to get fixed soonest. This is what we should be concentrating on, never mind anything else.
Can only agree. But I think the 2nd half showed what this group can do with the right focus.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:36 am
by Omygawd
I was near this yesterday, posted shortly after it happened and had posted on Friday in advance that this man is in my view a complete poo poo. Nothing has changed that view, he is without any class or redeeming features.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:52 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Huxley wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:02 am
Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:57 am
The 4th official should obviously picked this up. Or was he like the ref in FGR colours, or cocked a deafen.
There were plenty of witnesses, just how many are neutral is the issue.
But bearing in mind how Ross has acted previously, this is totally out of character.
So although not a neutral, I can only believe Ross.
I wouldn’t say it’s entirely out of character. Ross lost his sh*t at Bromley away last season and got sent off there. Although can’t say I blame him for that one either.
He lets these ex players get into his head. He shouldn’t.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:02 pm
by eagwgw
Will Ross miss the game against Oldham or is it the cup game? It probably doesn't make much difference.
If there is no new evidence it seems to me that nothing will change. The comments clearly below the belt and designed to hurt, but under the laws of the game it seems unsportsmanlike conduct. As distasteful as it were, I don't think it is the equivalent of Cooper either doing something like racially abusing someone (which might be punishable outside of football), or insulting Edinburgh himself.
Thing is, any coach who wants to be a fanny (and there are several of them) could simple goad Ross using the 'imposter' tag. Doesn't need to mention Justin but the inference is clear.
I do also wonder if there might be a harsher penalty from Ross, did he throw his gum at the floor, or at a person? If the latter it might be classed as spitting.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:12 pm
by Cheshunto
UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:55 am
Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:44 pm
Cooper’s Father Terry, the old Leeds left back, would’ve taught his son all about Gamesmanship etc but comments like that are disgraceful.
Hopefully the 4th official heard it .
I watched his father play - from a distant memory he was an excellent player and don't remember him being particular bad in terms of fouls etc
Yes I think you’re right ‘Up’
Cooper was not one the dirtiest players in that Leeds team, but Don Revie taught all different types of tricks to that team and Cooper would probably have passed on some to his son.
I’m not sure that even Revie would have stooped as low as Cooper allegedly did yesterday.
He had others that did that in that team
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:35 pm
by EastDerehamO
In the interests of balance Cooper said he didn’t say it, but Ross clearly got upset over something, and it was a remarkably stupid and tasteless thing to say if reports are true, and that’s really disappointing, football doesn’t need that.
Was at Peterborough v Burton yesterday meeting my Posh supporting son down from Lincoln uni – and a 91st minute wonder strike won ‘us’ it – while they’ve become my second team there’s only one O’s! But while I was keeping in touch with the O’s score I just knew we’d lose, saw the Scunthorpe game last week, we’re not at the races currently, and totally understand the comments on here re change being needed and quick.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:42 pm
by redintheface
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:03 am
I think a lot of fans are getting distracted here. What went on yesterday wasn't nice, and it needs to get sorted quickly, which I'm sure it will do. But what also went on yesterday is that we lost yet again, and we are dropping like a stone into the relegation mire.
Big things are wrong at this club at the moment and it needs to get fixed soonest. This is what we should be concentrating on, never mind anything else.
Couldn’t agree more. This will only act as a smokescreen and divert attention from more fundamental issues.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:51 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:42 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:03 am
I think a lot of fans are getting distracted here. What went on yesterday wasn't nice, and it needs to get sorted quickly, which I'm sure it will do. But what also went on yesterday is that we lost yet again, and we are dropping like a stone into the relegation mire.
Big things are wrong at this club at the moment and it needs to get fixed soonest. This is what we should be concentrating on, never mind anything else.
Couldn’t agree more. This will only act as a smokescreen and divert attention from more fundamental issues.
Obviously some of our players are not good enough for this level and need changing in January . I agree giving contract extensions to some of these players was a stupid mistake
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:56 pm
by spen666
UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:55 am
Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:44 pm
Cooper’s Father Terry, the old Leeds left back, would’ve taught his son all about Gamesmanship etc but comments like that are disgraceful.
Hopefully the 4th official heard it .
I watched his father play - from a distant memory he was an excellent player and don't remember him being particular bad in terms of fouls etc
He had others that did that in that team
He was party of the "Dirty Leeds" team under Don Revie
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:08 pm
by Lucky7
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:51 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:42 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:03 am
I think a lot of fans are getting distracted here. What went on yesterday wasn't nice, and it needs to get sorted quickly, which I'm sure it will do. But what also went on yesterday is that we lost yet again, and we are dropping like a stone into the relegation mire.
Big things are wrong at this club at the moment and it needs to get fixed soonest. This is what we should be concentrating on, never mind anything else.
Couldn’t agree more. This will only act as a smokescreen and divert attention from more fundamental issues.
Obviously some of our players are not good enough for this level and need changing in January . I agree giving contract extensions to some of these players was a stupid mistake
Obviously some of our boarders are not good enough for this level and need there nappy changing constantly . I agree giving typing time to some of these boarders is a stupid mistake
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:14 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:25 am
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:03 am
I think a lot of fans are getting distracted here. What went on yesterday wasn't nice, and it needs to get sorted quickly, which I'm sure it will do. But what also went on yesterday is that we lost yet again, and we are dropping like a stone into the relegation mire.
Big things are wrong at this club at the moment and it needs to get fixed soonest. This is what we should be concentrating on, never mind anything else.
Can only agree. But I think the 2nd half showed what this group can do with the right focus.
What, another semi-decent 45 minutes three down against a team coasting it, taking the piss, happy to see the game out without too much wasted effort. Had we only been 1 down at half time, impossible as that seems, FGR would have ripped us in the second half too.
We need to put In a decent 90 whilst we still have a chance for points, not when it’s game over.
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:25 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
What's worrying me is this complacency that because only one team goes down this season , we're going to be alright . Well we won't be alright by losing all the time . Sooner or later, we will find ourselves bottom than what . ? I suppose only then will the club do the right thing by bringing in an experienced manager . Why do we have to wait until we're deep in the sh*t before we do that . Why don't we bring in that type of manger now and give him the chance to access and than strengthen our squad in January . It would be nice to give any new manager a decent chance of keeping us up .
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:51 pm
by Disoriented
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:25 pm
What's worrying me is this complacency that because only one team goes down this season , we're going to be alright . Well we won't be alright by losing all the time . Sooner or later, we will find ourselves bottom than what . ? I suppose only then will the club do the right thing by bringing in an experienced manager . Why do we have to wait until we're deep in the sh*t before we do that . Why don't we bring in that type of manger now and give him the chance to access and than strengthen our squad in January . It would be nice to give any new manager a decent chance of keeping us up .
Agree totally. A new manager has to come in now, but does anyone trust Ling to get the right person after the cockups he continually presides over?
Re: Forest Green manager
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:09 pm
by Stowaway
This would be the same Martin Ling who presided over the appointment of Justin Edinburgh, no?