What is Fletcher doing wrong?

[redintheface]

I don't believe we actively targeted a young untested manager, more that Carl was the most qualified and high profile guy that would accept the terms and conditions, and then we pretended after that he ticked every box not to undermine him.

Maybe there was an element of bad luck in the timing and the front-runners were Calderwood and Adams, and Adams must have wanted things we could not give. They for me did not tick all the boxes, but you can't wait forever for the right man, we are restricted by availability at the time.

Rewind back to 2017 and Justin Edinburgh did (ie track record of success, locally known, able to fit into the system), had he been in a job somewhere else we might not have ended up with someone as good (although not impossible).

There was a link on the Plymouth forum here:
https://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic ... 82&start=0

You might think they are commenting on of our recent defeats but no, it's one of their games from years ago! Just doesn't seem like man management is his thing. Thing is, despite Ross being 100% more passionate I don't think this is his bag either. Just gotta hope his tactical ability over-rides that.

The timing aspect is a fair point and obviously the success or failure of a recruitment is largely determined by the quality of the applicants. Even more remiss of the Board in that case to install RE as the “interim head coach” and then not look for a permanent appointment until such time as he reached the end of his tether and chose to revert to his original position!

[moonwalk19]

His tactics that his is asking the players to adopt is obviously confusing them. The three winning games before he came in were beginning to show confidence in their play. That appears to be wiped out His tactics should be adopted once he gets to know the players capabilities which should be over a period of time.
My concerns are

Brill - Although he played well last season with plenty of clean sheets he has been caught out several times this season.Should revert back as a Coach.
Coulson -lack of pace for L2
Ling- Injury prone . Should have played his 1st game back against Brighton . If he was not fit for this game then he should not have played in the more important game on Sunday.
Clay- played well last year. Different player this season so far. . Running around like a headless chicken at times
Dennis- looked a good sighning . Has been in and out of side. Has not found his best position in side
Dayton - injury prone.Cannot carry him for much longer.
Harrold- Tries hard. Needs players around him to lay off.
JMD- Thought he would a good player after last season. Been playing in and out of the team. Not given enough game time to get to where he was last season. Needs an arm around his shoulder to get back his confidence
Jobi -Going back to game at Colchester where he was kicking ball about with confidence during pre match kick about. Surely he
Is match fit by now or is he not in CF plans
Alabi - Should have been paid off
I have watched Malden play once this season and from that one game it was clear to me that they had forwards with a lot of pace. Did not appear to me that Orient had done their homework. We had no players with any pace to combat their forwards . Was a complete shambles from start to finish . Worrying times ahead

[RedDwarf 1881]

Sotiriou said Hess’s tactics are nice and simple. Sotiriou scores Dover’s winner last Saturday so there must be some merit in that . I think it will do him some good playing for a proper manager for a while

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Sotiriou said Hess’s tactics are nice and simple. Sotiriou scores Dover’s winner last Saturday so there must be some merit in that

Clearly Hess isn’t a student of modern methods and ideas. He really needs to get up to date. He’s just some old geezer who’s side happened to knock out a side at a higher level, what does he know.

With a bit of a clue on the modern stuff he could go out to a team several tiers lower.

What an amateur

[redintheface]

Sotiriou said Hess’s tactics are nice and simple. Sotiriou scores Dover’s winner last Saturday so there must be some merit in that . I think it will do him some good playing for a proper manager for a while

To be honest, I don’t recall many fans paying homage to Hessenthaler’s tactics when he was in charge at the O’s!

[Disoriented]

The interviews- by not going into details on where we went wrong, is he actually just protecting the players? I'm sure he has noticed that Coulson turns like a lorry and Clay couldnt tackle a big dinner.

Can he at least stop saying ‘Like I said ...’

That would be a start.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Sotiriou said Hess’s tactics are nice and simple. Sotiriou scores Dover’s winner last Saturday so there must be some merit in that . I think it will do him some good playing for a proper manager for a while

To be honest, I don’t recall many fans paying homage to Hessenthaler’s tactics when he was in charge at the O’s!

I think we were all too preoccupied with the circus that was going on at the time

[redintheface]

The interviews- by not going into details on where we went wrong, is he actually just protecting the players? I'm sure he has noticed that Coulson turns like a lorry and Clay couldnt tackle a big dinner.

Can he at least stop saying ‘Like I said ...’

That would be a start.

Indeed - so to speak!

[Disoriented]

The interviews- by not going into details on where we went wrong, is he actually just protecting the players? I'm sure he has noticed that Coulson turns like a lorry and Clay couldnt tackle a big dinner.

Can he at least stop saying ‘Like I said ...’

That would be a start.

Indeed - so to speak!

[gshaw]

Sotiriou said Hess’s tactics are nice and simple. Sotiriou scores Dover’s winner last Saturday so there must be some merit in that . I think it will do him some good playing for a proper manager for a while

To be honest, I don’t recall many fans paying homage to Hessenthaler’s tactics when he was in charge at the O’s!

You mean Beelzebub's tactics given we know he was picking the team

[Disoriented]

Sotiriou said Hess’s tactics are nice and simple. Sotiriou scores Dover’s winner last Saturday so there must be some merit in that . I think it will do him some good playing for a proper manager for a while

To be honest, I don’t recall many fans paying homage to Hessenthaler’s tactics when he was in charge at the O’s!

You mean Beelzebub's tactics given we know he was picking the team

Like Martin is now?

[gshaw]

To be honest, I don’t recall many fans paying homage to Hessenthaler’s tactics when he was in charge at the O’s!

You mean Beelzebub's tactics given we know he was picking the team

Like Martin is now?

Any proof of this or just the Ling Jr obsession?

[Disoriented]

You mean Beelzebub's tactics given we know he was picking the team

Like Martin is now?

Any proof of this or just the Ling Jr obsession?

You mean Ling Snr.

Stating the bleeding obvious is not an obsession. It is interesting to see how many boarders are questioning his performance now and in far more strident tones than me too!

[Long slender neck]

No evidence at all then.

[o-no]

I don't think Martin is picking the team, but if you're a new manager and the DoF's son is one of the players, you're going to play him - at least until you figure out if you can get away with not playing him.

The way it's going CF is not going to drop Sam, he needs as many allies onside as he can get.

[Disoriented]

No evidence at all then.

What evidence do you want?

[Long slender neck]

Anything credible or proven. Don't play dumb.