Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:49 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:48 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:23 pm Won't the brexit party split the vote?

Lets hope so.

After all Boris can't be trusted as he failed to Brexit us by 31 Oct. The man's a born liar not like Adolf Farage.

Yes, we know that. But do the thicko remainers understand or recognise that?

EH16 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:57 am

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:40 am Labour need to make sure students can vote and immigrants haven’t gone back home for a holiday. The working class don’t for them anymore.

So you're suggesting only students and immigrants vote Labour? Can you break down, for us, how you've arrived at, what seems to me, such an erroneous conclusion. Also, can you clarify how you're defining immigrants?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:32 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:58 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:47 am

Feck

Labour has been backed into a corner on this somewhat. Lib/SNP support has made an election almost inevitable, and the opposition opposing an election is not a good look.

Lib/SNP are taking a huge gamble here. If it goes wrong for them, a big Tory majority will all but kill off their respective big issues, remaining in the EU and a second Scottish Independence referendum. They both are gambling on being able to form some sort of confidence arrangement with a minority Labour government to get a) remain on the ballot in a second referendum and b) a second Scottish Independence referendum.

Same old SNP and Liebrals. Always helping the Tories.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:24 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:32 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:58 am

Labour has been backed into a corner on this somewhat. Lib/SNP support has made an election almost inevitable, and the opposition opposing an election is not a good look.

Lib/SNP are taking a huge gamble here. If it goes wrong for them, a big Tory majority will all but kill off their respective big issues, remaining in the EU and a second Scottish Independence referendum. They both are gambling on being able to form some sort of confidence arrangement with a minority Labour government to get a) remain on the ballot in a second referendum and b) a second Scottish Independence referendum.

Same old SNP and Liebrals. Always helping the Tories.

That’s because their both yellow Tories

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:10 pm Labour backed into a corner.. Agree, by superior minds. Doing what they don't want to is a massive admission of defeat.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:10 pm Labour backed into a corner.. Agree, by superior minds. Doing what they don't want to is a massive admission of defeat.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:22 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:10 pm Labour backed into a corner.. Agree, by superior minds. Doing what they don't want to is a massive admission of defeat.

I mean not really. We will find that out in the long run. As the opposition they are always going to be on the back foot as the government of the day holds the cards.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:02 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:22 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:10 pm Labour backed into a corner.. Agree, by superior minds. Doing what they don't want to is a massive admission of defeat.

I mean not really. We will find that out in the long run. As the opposition they are always going to be on the back foot as the government of the day holds the cards.

Especially if steptoe is the leader of the opposition

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:22 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:10 pm Labour backed into a corner.. Agree, by superior minds. Doing what they don't want to is a massive admission of defeat.

I mean not really. We will find that out in the long run. As the opposition they are always going to be on the back foot as the government of the day holds the cards.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:36 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:22 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:10 pm Labour backed into a corner.. Agree, by superior minds. Doing what they don't want to is a massive admission of defeat.

I mean not really. We will find that out in the long run. As the opposition they are always going to be on the back foot as the government of the day holds the cards.

tbh I always felt the opposition had the better hand. They could say what they wanted, criticise when they wanted and promise what they wanted without ever having to deliver.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:03 pm “SNP are tartan Tory rats “. But they want an independent Scotland like you do .

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:47 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:36 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:22 pm

I mean not really. We will find that out in the long run. As the opposition they are always going to be on the back foot as the government of the day holds the cards.

tbh I always felt the opposition had the better hand. They could say what they wanted, criticise when they wanted and promise what they wanted without ever having to deliver.

That has nothing to do what we are talking about though. We were discussing the calling of an early election.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:02 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:47 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:36 pm

tbh I always felt the opposition had the better hand. They could say what they wanted, criticise when they wanted and promise what they wanted without ever having to deliver.

That has nothing to do what we are talking about though. We were discussing the calling of an early election.

Made possible by Corbyn's change of direction. Well done JC