Re: Older Orient fans
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:02 pm
Depends on what you mean by innovation. The current generation are excellent at taking ideas and developing them further. Making use of thing better. But let’s look at examples. I had a mobile phone 30 years ago. As a programmer I was writing Apps 45 years ago. Wireless communication is old, I had a laptop computer 40 years ago running VisiCalc software. Programming computers 50 years ago. Space travel, fibre communications around for years and so on.OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:45 pmAllow me to pick out a couple of bits of that.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:59 pmSome of what you say is absolute nonsense. Older people have gone through a culture of change and adapted to it, not to mention creating a lot of it. The older generation have been a generation of real innovation, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again, just refine. Go look at the history of the mobile phone and internet.OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:26 pm Older people were schooled to believe that things which are written carry authority. Because, 50 years ago, they did. Of course, nowadays any halfwit with a smart phone can go online and share their brainfarts, so the typical piece of writing found online is much much less authoritative than what you would read in a book or a newspaper half a century ago.
Younger people, who have grown up with the www, actually understand this to some degree, and are generally better (though obvs far from perfect) at taking things written online less seriously. Older people haven't quite got the same skills, and haven't been able to adapt to the new reality. Which is why your Mum got woke on Facebook, and why we have Brexit.
You're welcome.
Of course the young generation always believe they know everything and invented things like sex drugs and rock n roll. I did before I grew up and realised our parents weren’t as stupid and not wth it as we believed.
What I do think has changed is the advent of social media. I can recall the new brave world of electronic mail. But the young today adapt to technology far easier but in many cases not able to take it for what it is hence the rise in cyber bullying. So I not too sure all the young can deal with it easier.
Every new generation thinks the older lot are stupid. It’s part of growing up. One day, when older, and people think you are stupid you come to realise this, or should do.
Older people have gone through a culture of change and adapted to itYou seem to be saying that your generation were revolutionaries, and those that follow can't come close to matching it's achievements. With respect Sir, that is cobblers. The rate of change in the world is quite clearly *increasing* - I'm not arguing that this is necessarily good, but it's palpably happening. That's why we have Brexit, Trump etc, and the conservative backlash across the developed, white, ageing, Western world. We are struggling to cope with it, and your apparent declaration that progress is grinding to a halt is further evidence of that.The older generation have been a generation of real innovation, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again, just refine.
The reality is that progress is accelerating, and spinning out of our control.
What we see now in term of innovation are people able to take these things to another level, exploit them make them better, develop them further. Not a criticism but and acknowledgement of modern ideas.n But these innovations have been around for years albeit in a far more basic form.