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Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:08 pm
by Thor
RedO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:59 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:55 am
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:56 am
Ling has been consistently good this season and anyone trying to pin last night's result on him clearly has an agenda. He's the best right back at the club currently and is well worthy of his place in the team.
Hi Martin. Your son is sh*t.
He was honestly playing ok, until getting done in the 90th minute like that.
Offensively, that was easily the best I’ve seen him play. He was being braver with the ball, going forwards not back. Luckily they didn’t test him defensively until the later stages of the game when they tried to get down his channel with the long ball.
He was playing ok last night of that I must agree. However, having just watched back the highlights for the first goal he makes zero attempts to challenge the attacker, which is poor. We then had two further opportunities to defend it through Marv and Dean who both failed to deal with the header. So whilst Sam could and should have done better it is not his fault solely.
For the 2nd he was poor extremely poor. He's the wrong side of his man, he does not make any attempt to win the ball at any stage, then he puts zero effort in trying to block the cross. The goal is his fault, Marv is stretching trying to stop it and unfortunately it falls to the forward and bang goal, we get punished.
It is for me a common problem with Sam in that he very rarely busts a gut to get back, watch him in the next game and you'll see what I mean.
Finally, so far he's had a better season than last, I just don't think he's good enough for this level. Hopefully I'm proved wrong in the long run.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:14 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:08 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:59 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:55 am
Hi Martin. Your son is sh*t.
He was honestly playing ok, until getting done in the 90th minute like that.
Offensively, that was easily the best I’ve seen him play. He was being braver with the ball, going forwards not back. Luckily they didn’t test him defensively until the later stages of the game when they tried to get down his channel with the long ball.
He was playing ok last night of that I must agree. However, having just watched back the highlights for the first goal he makes zero attempts to challenge the attacker, which is poor. We then had two further opportunities to defend it through Marv and Dean who both failed to deal with the header. So whilst Sam could and should have done better it is not his fault solely.
For the 2nd he was poor extremely poor. He's the wrong side of his man, he does not make any attempt to win the ball at any stage, then he puts zero effort in trying to block the cross. The goal is his fault, Marv is stretching trying to stop it and unfortunately it falls to the forward and bang goal, we get punished.
It is for me a common problem with Sam in that he very rarely busts a gut to get back, watch him in the next game and you'll see what I mean.
Finally, so far he's had a better season than last, I just don't think he's good enough for this level. Hopefully I'm proved wrong in the long run.
Fair assessment.
The problem is he's not a full back. He'll never be a natural defender so long as he's got a hole up his arse. He's a tidy enough footballer as he was showing on the ball last night. But he's not quite good enough to cut it in midfield, hence trying to eek out a career in one of the lesser positions.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:09 pm
by O my gawd
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:55 am
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:56 am
Ling has been consistently good this season and anyone trying to pin last night's result on him clearly has an agenda. He's the best right back at the club currently and is well worthy of his place in the team.
Hi Martin. Your son is sh*t.
Yes very constructive, no agenda then.
Congratulations on being a Grade A Tw@t Boarder
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:24 pm
by Long slender neck
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:08 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:59 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:55 am
Hi Martin. Your son is sh*t.
He was honestly playing ok, until getting done in the 90th minute like that.
Offensively, that was easily the best I’ve seen him play. He was being braver with the ball, going forwards not back. Luckily they didn’t test him defensively until the later stages of the game when they tried to get down his channel with the long ball.
He was playing ok last night of that I must agree. However, having just watched back the highlights for the first goal he makes zero attempts to challenge the attacker, which is poor. We then had two further opportunities to defend it through Marv and Dean who both failed to deal with the header. So whilst Sam could and should have done better it is not his fault solely.
For the 2nd he was poor extremely poor. He's the wrong side of his man, he does not make any attempt to win the ball at any stage, then he puts zero effort in trying to block the cross. The goal is his fault, Marv is stretching trying to stop it and unfortunately it falls to the forward and bang goal, we get punished.
It is for me a common problem with Sam in that he very rarely busts a gut to get back, watch him in the next game and you'll see what I mean.
Finally, so far he's had a better season than last, I just don't think he's good enough for this level. Hopefully I'm proved wrong in the long run.
1st goal- what do you expect him to do in the split second he has to react to a cross coming in and flicking off the Crewe guys head? He is marking someone, they get lucky as the next player it falls to swings and misses which deceives Brill and it goes in.
2nd- long ball, Ling is chasing back and tried to block the cross. Marv scuffs his clearance, which falls to the scorer.
Dont you tire of being wrong?
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:16 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:24 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:08 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:59 am
He was honestly playing ok, until getting done in the 90th minute like that.
Offensively, that was easily the best I’ve seen him play. He was being braver with the ball, going forwards not back. Luckily they didn’t test him defensively until the later stages of the game when they tried to get down his channel with the long ball.
He was playing ok last night of that I must agree. However, having just watched back the highlights for the first goal he makes zero attempts to challenge the attacker, which is poor. We then had two further opportunities to defend it through Marv and Dean who both failed to deal with the header. So whilst Sam could and should have done better it is not his fault solely.
For the 2nd he was poor extremely poor. He's the wrong side of his man, he does not make any attempt to win the ball at any stage, then he puts zero effort in trying to block the cross. The goal is his fault, Marv is stretching trying to stop it and unfortunately it falls to the forward and bang goal, we get punished.
It is for me a common problem with Sam in that he very rarely busts a gut to get back, watch him in the next game and you'll see what I mean.
Finally, so far he's had a better season than last, I just don't think he's good enough for this level. Hopefully I'm proved wrong in the long run.
1st goal- what do you expect him to do in the split second he has to react to a cross coming in and flicking off the Crewe guys head? He is marking someone, they get lucky as the next player it falls to swings and misses which deceives Brill and it goes in.
2nd- long ball, Ling is chasing back and tried to block the cross. Marv scuffs his clearance, which falls to the scorer.
Dont you tire of being wrong?
I expect him to remain with the attacker and put him under enough pressure to make the flick on harder. The 2nd, he allowed the long ball to drop to a player he allowed to get goal side of him. The block from Marv should never have been able to drop to a Crewe player.
The whole defence is a shambles but he’s the only one who keeps his place.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:30 pm
by Long slender neck
He does stay with the attacker, when does he leave?
2nd- suspect the man is goal side of him because its actually Marvins man, who is marking nobody.
The only defender to lose their place is Happe.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:45 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:30 pm
He does stay with the attacker, when does he leave?
2nd- suspect the man is goal side of him because its actually Marvins man, who is marking nobody.
The only defender to lose their place is Happe.
As soon as the ball comes in, the attacker drops infront of him and Ling doesn’t react. Leaves him with a free header. The 2nd goal, they targetted him. Ball went right on him, like teams did every game last year. I think he’s sh*t but if they’re going to play him, they need to give him protection. Although, you don’t play a right back if he needs protection. They’ve all spent time on the bench or brought off. It’s ironic that Happe is the best defender at the club but hems first to get dropped, although if he really did miss Saturday because his dad got married, questions need to be asked of his desire to want to start.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:51 pm
by tuffers#1
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:45 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:30 pm
He does stay with the attacker, when does he leave?
2nd- suspect the man is goal side of him because its actually Marvins man, who is marking nobody.
The only defender to lose their place is Happe.
As soon as the ball comes in, the attacker drops infront of him and Ling doesn’t react. Leaves him with a free header. The 2nd goal, they targetted him. Ball went right on him, like teams did every game last year. I think he’s sh*t but if they’re going to play him, they need to give him protection. Although, you don’t play a right back if he needs protection. They’ve all spent time on the bench or brought off. It’s ironic that Happe is the best defender at the club but hems first to get dropped, although if he really did miss Saturday because his dad got married, questions need to be asked of his desire to want to start.
You are only offering opinions Biggy
Not factual evidence about ling or happe or anyother player just like i do & everybody else.
We dont pick the team we dont coach it ,
We just have opinions on it.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:04 pm
by eagwgw
The marriage stuff is bizarre, makes no sense at all. What if Coulson or Marv got injured in the warmup or after 10 minutes? Almost as if the attitude was we were unlikely to get a point or the game didn't matter so early in the season so it's OK.
I refuse to believe that, either it's bullshit or we ain't getting the full story.
Second goal was such a sh*t one to concede, basically a hoof downfield and the defence is in disarray.
We just seem to be all over the shop at the back. If you were an opposition manager you'd be telling the team the obvious points, 1) don't hit balls up to centre halves as they are dominant in the air, 2) work the flanks as the full-backs are slow and you will get good crossing opportunities, 3) make late runs into the box as they are not picked up.
The only teams we have managed to shut out were Cheltenham (who had 9 men for 30 mins) and Stevenage (who had no ambitions after suffering injury). Everyone else has had success using the 3 factors above.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:11 pm
by BiggsyMalone
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:51 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:45 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:30 pm
He does stay with the attacker, when does he leave?
2nd- suspect the man is goal side of him because its actually Marvins man, who is marking nobody.
The only defender to lose their place is Happe.
As soon as the ball comes in, the attacker drops infront of him and Ling doesn’t react. Leaves him with a free header. The 2nd goal, they targetted him. Ball went right on him, like teams did every game last year. I think he’s sh*t but if they’re going to play him, they need to give him protection. Although, you don’t play a right back if he needs protection. They’ve all spent time on the bench or brought off. It’s ironic that Happe is the best defender at the club but hems first to get dropped, although if he really did miss Saturday because his dad got married, questions need to be asked of his desire to want to start.
You are only offering opinions Biggy
Not factual evidence about ling or happe or anyother player just like i do & everybody else.
We dont pick the team we dont coach it ,
We just have opinions on it.
I know what I’m talking about. My Dad played at full back in the premier league and champions league, went to the world cup and won the league and fa cup. I’d say my opinion is more valid than 94% of people on here
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:18 pm
by Long slender neck
Prove it
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:32 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
eagwgw wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:04 pm
The marriage stuff is bizarre, makes no sense at all. What if Coulson or Marv got injured in the warmup or after 10 minutes? Almost as if the attitude was we were unlikely to get a point or the game didn't matter so early in the season so it's OK.
I refuse to believe that, either it's bullshit or we ain't getting the full story.
Second goal was such a sh*t one to concede, basically a hoof downfield and the defence is in disarray.
We just seem to be all over the shop at the back. If you were an opposition manager you'd be telling the team the obvious points, 1) don't hit balls up to centre halves as they are dominant in the air, 2) work the flanks as the full-backs are slow and you will get good crossing opportunities, 3) make late runs into the box as they are not picked up.
The only teams we have managed to shut out were Cheltenham (who had 9 men for 30 mins) and Stevenage (who had no ambitions after suffering injury). Everyone else has had success using the 3 factors above.
Weak management. He didn’t just decide to not attend the squad, he would have had to get permission which Ross obviously allowed. We don’t know all the details but can’t imagine a player being allowed under other managers
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:33 pm
by Long slender neck
"We dont know what has happened but its weak management"
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:36 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Based on what we know it is weak management.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:37 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Angol apparently had drinks with his boys starting at 8 last night so had to make a move.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:43 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Can’t say too much but his initials are SB. Didn’t go to the world cup with England.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:40 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
So you're just bitter that your dad didnt get you a place in the starting XI of a team then ?
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:53 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:37 pm
Angol apparently had drinks with his boys starting at 8 last night so had to make a move.
The Happe stuff simply can’t be true. I just can’t believe a footballer would be allowed a Saturday off to go to his dads wedding.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:00 pm
by tuffers#1
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:35 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Says the bloke who can’t master the quote feature on a forum
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:36 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:40 pm
So you're just bitter that your dad didnt get you a place in the starting XI of a team then ?
He isn’t a director of football. I’m too good to play at league 2 level.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:42 pm
by Long slender neck
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:11 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:51 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:45 pm
As soon as the ball comes in, the attacker drops infront of him and Ling doesn’t react. Leaves him with a free header. The 2nd goal, they targetted him. Ball went right on him, like teams did every game last year. I think he’s sh*t but if they’re going to play him, they need to give him protection. Although, you don’t play a right back if he needs protection. They’ve all spent time on the bench or brought off. It’s ironic that Happe is the best defender at the club but hems first to get dropped, although if he really did miss Saturday because his dad got married, questions need to be asked of his desire to want to start.
You are only offering opinions Biggy
Not factual evidence about ling or happe or anyother player just like i do & everybody else.
We dont pick the team we dont coach it ,
We just have opinions on it.
I know what I’m talking about. My Dad played at full back in the premier league and champions league, went to the world cup and won the league and fa cup. I’d say my opinion is more valid than 94% of people on here
Liar.
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:45 pm
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:42 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:11 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:51 pm
You are only offering opinions Biggy
Not factual evidence about ling or happe or anyother player just like i do & everybody else.
We dont pick the team we dont coach it ,
We just have opinions on it.
I know what I’m talking about. My Dad played at full back in the premier league and champions league, went to the world cup and won the league and fa cup. I’d say my opinion is more valid than 94% of people on here
Liar.
Why would he lie?
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:29 pm
by tuffers#1
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:35 pm
Says the bloke who can’t master the quote feature on a forum
One can master it of course cockle
One just wants to show one is sometimes fallable
to lesser mortals . ( I'm not , but one needs to show willing).
Re: Sam Ling
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:04 pm
by Long slender neck
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:36 pm
Based on what we know it is weak management.
We don't know anything.
