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Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:30 am
by Byways1
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:49 am
one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:23 am
Very true plus the people who complain don't want to do the alleged taken jobs.
Will those unemployed people who voted leave take up the vacated positions?
I see no value paying benefits if for instance spuds need harvesting for a living wage.
Not proposing exploiting those workers, but its unskilled work suitable for most fit people
Yes they will take these jobs if the terms and conditions are acceptable.
The jobs were there long before Blair gave in to uncontrolled immigration.
Never going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
And more likely to go back after 6 months.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:38 am
by Real Al
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:30 am
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:49 am
Yes they will take these jobs if the terms and conditions are acceptable.
The jobs were there long before Blair gave in to uncontrolled immigration.
Never going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
And more likely to go back after 6 months.
So, at the end of the day, you don't care about the economy, or Britain's standing in the world. You just want to hear less people talking in foreign.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:40 am
by o-no
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:38 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:30 am
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 am
Never going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
And more likely to go back after 6 months.
So, at the end of the day, you don't care about the economy, or Britain's standing in the world. You just want to hear less people talking in foreign.
I think you just nailed it
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:01 am
by Byways1
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:38 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:30 am
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 am
Never going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
And more likely to go back after 6 months.
So, at the end of the day, you don't care about the economy, or Britain's standing in the world. You just want to hear less people talking in foreign.
Stop playing this race card Big Al.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:28 am
by whittle81
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:43 am
whittle81 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:14 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:51 pm
What nonsense.
There are loads of British people who will do these jobs but not on the terms and conditions on offer.
When you see jobs advertised at £9 an hour for a 12 hour night shift someone must be doing it. These jobs used to be a premium rate 15 years ago because no one would do them otherwise. It’s all down to supply and demand, we don’t need warehouse workers from abroad so that companies can pay peanuts.
Some of the jobs are filled by retired people who have a company pension, or even olders ones who have there state pension as well, as they can afford to work for £9 an hour only.
What rubbish.
Have you seen an Amazon warehouse?
Blimey, it’s hard to get a job now if you’re 50.
What pensioner is going to work a 12 hour night shift, and more importantly who would employ them.
Yes you are right, no they won't do those jobs! I should have said about other less arduous jobs with less hours that don't pay well.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:30 am
by Long slender neck
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:49 am
one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:23 am
Very true plus the people who complain don't want to do the alleged taken jobs.
Will those unemployed people who voted leave take up the vacated positions?
I see no value paying benefits if for instance spuds need harvesting for a living wage.
Not proposing exploiting those workers, but its unskilled work suitable for most fit people
Yes they will take these jobs if the terms and conditions are acceptable.
The jobs were there long before Blair gave in to uncontrolled immigration.
Never going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
You're probably right, won't happen. But do you agree with it?
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am
by greyhound
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:36 am
by Disoriented
Yes, your attitude is indeed surly.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 am
by Byways1
Good.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 am
by Disoriented
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 am
Good.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
People change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:47 am
by greyhound
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:36 am
Yes, your attitude is indeed surly.
probably on par with yours.
nah maybe not.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:48 am
by Byways1
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 am
Good.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
People change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.
You mean the one JC bottled out of.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 am
by Disoriented
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:48 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 am
Good.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
People change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.
You mean the one JC bottled out of.
What bottling?
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 am
by Disoriented
greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:47 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:36 am
Yes, your attitude is indeed surly.
probably on par with yours.
nah maybe not.
My disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:03 pm
by greyhound
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 am
greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:47 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:36 am
Yes, your attitude is indeed surly.
probably on par with yours.
nah maybe not.
My disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.
us Brexiteers are as calm as a sunny day.
we just no we are going to blow you away.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm
I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
Maybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:45 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 am
Good.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
People change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.
Yes, they can change their minds but usually not until the original vote is enacted upon .
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:47 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:03 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 am
greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:47 am
probably on par with yours.
nah maybe not.
My disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.
us Brexiteers are as calm as a sunny day.
we just know we are going to blow you away.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:17 pm
by Real Al
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm
I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
Maybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .
I've heard this said before. Who, exactly are these unelected bureaucrats? After all we had recent European elections to elect the parliament.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:38 pm
by Disoriented
Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:17 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm
I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
Maybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .
I've heard this said before. Who, exactly are these unelected bureaucrats? After all we had recent European elections to elect the parliament.
It’s all a nonsense so either the Brexiteers trotting out this bowlocks are either too thick to see that, or just as big a liars as Farrago, Johnson and co.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:28 pm
by WickfordO
Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:43 am
whittle81 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:14 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:51 pm
What nonsense.
There are loads of British people who will do these jobs but not on the terms and conditions on offer.
When you see jobs advertised at £9 an hour for a 12 hour night shift someone must be doing it. These jobs used to be a premium rate 15 years ago because no one would do them otherwise. It’s all down to supply and demand, we don’t need warehouse workers from abroad so that companies can pay peanuts.
Some of the jobs are filled by retired people who have a company pension, or even olders ones who have there state pension as well, as they can afford to work for £9 an hour only.
What rubbish.
Have you seen an Amazon warehouse?
Blimey, it’s hard to get a job now if you’re 50.
What pensioner is going to work a 12 hour night shift, and more importantly who would employ them.
Those that are lonely or bored with retirement or didn't want to leave work in the first place. Fortunately I do not suffer from any of those. I love my retirement. Just wish my body felt the same way.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:36 pm
by tuffers#1
greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:03 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 am
greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:47 am
probably on par with yours.
nah maybe not.
My disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.
us Brexiteers are as calm as a sunny day.
we just no we are going to blow you away.
Well the Far right have already blown a Left wing mp away ( rip Jo cox ) now they are threatening all remainers while they jump around like lunatics if a milkshake gets lobbed claiming foul play .
Sad F*ckaz
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:55 pm
by DonaldRocks
There was no groundswell of support asking for Brexit before Cameron f*cked up and called the referendum to settle Tory squabbling. Less than 10%, I read in another article. He ran away when he should have been leading a coalition across all parties to see how they could manage Brexit to get the best deal that would be acceptable for all sides and less damaging impact. The result was always going to be decisive. Nobody expected Brexit would have received a majority. Many people voted to give Cameron and the Tories a kicking. Boris is finding out that the Tories and him in particular isn't very popular in many parts of th e country and especially in the North. Funny, how Liverpool boycott that rag "The Sun" and Liverpool is less Brexity than many neighbouring constituencies.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:18 am
by Disoriented
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm
I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
Maybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .
What ‘ruling’ have they done? You’re living in a xenophobic fantasy land.
Name one negative way the EU have impacted on us.
Re: so it begins Brexit
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:38 am
by Byways1
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:18 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm
I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
Maybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .
What ‘ruling’ have they done? You’re living in a xenophobic fantasy land.
Name one negative way the EU have impacted on us.
Mass uncontrolled imagination, driving down wages terms and conditions.
People sleeping in tents because they have nowhere to live and idiots like you want to let more in.