Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Might as well continue as we are then

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:26 pm We can probably expect a bump in attendances because we'd raise the season ticket cap, it'd be easier for people to buy tickets where they want in groups, more flexibility to offer deals, larger away fan section, less people being put off by how dated our facilities are, and general buzz that comes with a new stadium.

All that said, an extra 1.5k to 2k for our average gate adds on what, an extra £1m a season in income? So a new ground will never pay for itself even in the long term, meaning we'd need a very sizeable bit of subsidy, even if we're making additional income from other sources and no longer having to pay rent.

Read my earlier post. Unless we grow the size of the ground, irrespective of how many people attend - then we will be confined to the lower leagues by EFL profit and sustainability rules. The following link gives you an outline on it. You just can't get £5m in anymore from investors and spend it on players.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 6e4068113o

My guess is it will be someone international in real estate with very deep pockets. It's not often large parcels of land are available in London at a heavily discounted rate which the council will offer to regenerate an area. I think they'd be looking to spend a minimum of 200mm with 100mm on a 15-20k ground and 100mm on a housing/hotel/entertaiment complex.

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:38 pm My guess is it will be someone international in real estate with very deep pockets. It's not often large parcels of land are available in London at a heavily discounted rate which the council will offer to regenerate an area. I think they'd be looking to spend a minimum of 200mm with 100mm on a 15-20k ground and 100mm on a housing/hotel/entertaiment complex.

For that amount of money I would like to think any new stadium could hold more than 20k.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:22 am

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:38 pm My guess is it will be someone international in real estate with very deep pockets. It's not often large parcels of land are available in London at a heavily discounted rate which the council will offer to regenerate an area. I think they'd be looking to spend a minimum of 200mm with 100mm on a 15-20k ground and 100mm on a housing/hotel/entertaiment complex.

For that amount of money I would like to think any new stadium could hold more than 20k.

I think Bournemouth are looking to build a new stadium and that was their likely capacity with estimated cost of 90mil, but there's always a runover in costs. Everton's new stadium cost 800mil from a plan of 500mil!

Adz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:47 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:22 am

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:38 pm My guess is it will be someone international in real estate with very deep pockets. It's not often large parcels of land are available in London at a heavily discounted rate which the council will offer to regenerate an area. I think they'd be looking to spend a minimum of 200mm with 100mm on a 15-20k ground and 100mm on a housing/hotel/entertaiment complex.

For that amount of money I would like to think any new stadium could hold more than 20k.

I think Bournemouth are looking to build a new stadium and that was their likely capacity with estimated cost of 90mil, but there's always a runover in costs. Everton's new stadium cost 800mil from a plan of 500mil!

Re Everton, couldn’t we take a leaf out of their book and build it over a reservoir or something. Plenty of those knocking about in WF. Saves on land!

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:38 pm My guess is it will be someone international in real estate with very deep pockets. It's not often large parcels of land are available in London at a heavily discounted rate which the council will offer to regenerate an area. I think they'd be looking to spend a minimum of 200mm with 100mm on a 15-20k ground and 100mm on a housing/hotel/entertaiment complex.

Yes, like I said earlier (and dismissed by some) it undoubtedly will be a stadium mixed with residential/commercial ,and will be a multi-functional one capable of hosting events non-football as well, as other revenue streams.
There are plots in the borough, which are capable of this development.
Having a major commercial investment bank as our major sponsor could prove very useful.
The new investors will clearly have plans/ideas concerning this, which will become clear in the near future,

Leyton53 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:57 am

Adz wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:38 pm My guess is it will be someone international in real estate with very deep pockets. It's not often large parcels of land are available in London at a heavily discounted rate which the council will offer to regenerate an area. I think they'd be looking to spend a minimum of 200mm with 100mm on a 15-20k ground and 100mm on a housing/hotel/entertaiment complex.

Yes, like I said earlier (and dismissed by some) it undoubtedly will be a stadium mixed with residential/commercial ,and will be a multi-functional one capable of hosting events non-football as well, as other revenue streams.
There are plots in the borough, which are capable of this development.
Having a major commercial investment bank as our major sponsor could prove very useful.
The new investors will clearly have plans/ideas concerning this, which will become clear in the near future,

As long as it looks like a football stadium inside and not a part way housing estate like now I'd be happy .

Any rumours on whom the investors are?

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:13 pm Any rumours on whom the investors are?

Was widely rumoured on X/Twitter and other board when news of the Exclusivity Agreement broke (probably on this board somewhere as well)

Main Rumour I've seen is a guy called David Gandler, CEO of FUBO TV, he has a sports investment group that previously owned a Stake in Paris FC (Not PSG)

I don't know enough to be excited, but some obvious pros...

* Previous Experience of being involved with a football club
* Runs a streaming media company that I believe has exclusive rights to show Premier League matches in Canada, also I think Disney recently acquired a 70% shareholding of FUBO
* Recently sold his share in Paris FC for mega money

The things that make sense about this rumour (id addition to the above)

David Gandler is apparently from Boston, so quite possible Nigel already knows him well, and apparently Nigel started saying investment conversations were going well back in December, at the time he'd just returned from Paris, around the same time Gandler sold his stake in Paris FC, now this could all be bollocks, but I read that somewhere, and it would make sense.

Now what I definitely don't know is a) whether or not this guy could fund a new stadium (which is apparently a massive part of the investment conversations) and that leads into b) who else is involved with the investment group, or is it literally just Gandler on his own (assuming of course that it's even him to begin with)

https://www.sportspro.com/news/paris-fc ... ler-value/

Gandler Media Partners, a group led by Fubo cofounder and chief executive David Gandler, which was the second largest shareholder in Paris FC, has sold its stake of roughly 17 per cent at an enterprise value of more than €90 million (US$98.5 million), according to a person familiar with the matter. The value is a record amount for a Ligue 2 club.

Gandler Media Partners, which is not affiliated with Fubo, first took a stake in Paris FC in July 2021 and had continued to buy additional stakes. SportsPro understands that the group’s deal to sell was struck in May 2024 and closed on 8th October. It means Gandler has successfully exited Paris FC with a 140 per cent return in three years, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Jaggsy1979 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:34 am https://www.sportspro.com/news/paris-fc ... ler-value/

Gandler Media Partners, a group led by Fubo cofounder and chief executive David Gandler, which was the second largest shareholder in Paris FC, has sold its stake of roughly 17 per cent at an enterprise value of more than €90 million (US$98.5 million), according to a person familiar with the matter. The value is a record amount for a Ligue 2 club.

Gandler Media Partners, which is not affiliated with Fubo, first took a stake in Paris FC in July 2021 and had continued to buy additional stakes. SportsPro understands that the group’s deal to sell was struck in May 2024 and closed on 8th October. It means Gandler has successfully exited Paris FC with a 140 per cent return in three years, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Try researching him and see his true worth!
Think you’ll be surprised.

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:40 pm

Jaggsy1979 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:34 am https://www.sportspro.com/news/paris-fc ... ler-value/

Gandler Media Partners, a group led by Fubo cofounder and chief executive David Gandler, which was the second largest shareholder in Paris FC, has sold its stake of roughly 17 per cent at an enterprise value of more than €90 million (US$98.5 million), according to a person familiar with the matter. The value is a record amount for a Ligue 2 club.

Gandler Media Partners, which is not affiliated with Fubo, first took a stake in Paris FC in July 2021 and had continued to buy additional stakes. SportsPro understands that the group’s deal to sell was struck in May 2024 and closed on 8th October. It means Gandler has successfully exited Paris FC with a 140 per cent return in three years, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Try researching him and see his true worth!
Think you’ll be surprised.

I did try but it varies depending on where you look, some say his net worth is 1m, some say its over 47m, know the lower one is rubbish as his salary from Fubo is allegedly over 5m a year