Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:22 pm
The Centerists Dads can’t just accept that their man might be a bit unpopular
I don't like Starmer, but still voted Labour to try and get rid of the scummy Tories. Labour have made way too many mistakes so far but the weight of criticism from the Media outlets and Social media channels is frankly ridiculous and completely disproportionate to his and Labours performance. It's an orchestrated attack on a democratically elected head of state.
Finally, would those members of the public currently villifying Starmer really want the Tories back?
Of course the criticism is ridiculous and disproportionate. What did anyone expect?
The people signing this will be the ex-Tory voters who voted for Reform this time.
Fantastic comment and it seems to me you are a real defender of free speech. Added to that you come across as someone who takes things seriously and sensitively. You've got a good eye for detail and a very enjoyable writing style which it is a joy to read. Your comments are very important to this forum. Keep it up!!
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:12 pm
Just looking at the signatories data, they're spread very evenly. Vast majority of constituencies have a four figure number of signatories, only a few have 3 figures. Seems a bit unusual to me. Almost as if bots are ensuring they spread their vote around.
Even 650 people in the outer hebrides constituency of 'Na h-Eileanan an Iar' put their name down.
I wonder if such data exists for the previously mentioned remoaner petitions. Would be interesting to see if that follows similar spreads, or more closely follows the geographic split in the Referendum
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:27 pm
Just what are people so pissed off about? Literally nothing has happened compared to the previous bunch
Must be signed by far right bots/russians
DId you miss the budget? Numerous industries saying it will stifle investment, lead to job losses and lead to rate rises.
Did you ,it’s the Farmers protesting last week?
All because both will have to pay their way and they're not used to it. Of course they're complaining
Farmers pay their way especially in hard work. They are the backbone of the country.
The CBI reported negatively on her Budget too.
Last week Starmer single-handedly upset the Russians, the Chinese snd the Israelis within a few days of each other.
It is no good harping on about what the other lot did or did not do but to deliver the ‘change’ promised.
They are now attacking those on sickness benefits having already done the pensioners. There is this petition going round which he is dismissing but could indicate a level of potential unrest should this negativity from his party continue. Reeves receipt about her CV is really concerning too.
In the days when farmers ploughed the fields with a donkey's jaw bone pulled by 2 shire horses, it was indeed hard work. Nowadays they sit in a half million pound tractor with a consul like the SS Enterprise and sip lattes while the machinery does the work
Celtient wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:51 pm
In the days when farmers ploughed the fields with a donkey's jaw bone pulled by 2 shire horses, it was indeed hard work. Nowadays they sit in a half million pound tractor with a consul like the SS Enterprise and sip lattes while the machinery does the work
But this is part of their point. How much do these new tractors cost to buy .
Celtient wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:51 pm
In the days when farmers ploughed the fields with a donkey's jaw bone pulled by 2 shire horses, it was indeed hard work. Nowadays they sit in a half million pound tractor with a consul like the SS Enterprise and sip lattes while the machinery does the work
But this is part of their point. How much do these new tractors cost to buy .
If you can't afford one don't do farming.
Reality is that on many tenanted farms and small and medium sized farms, they rent the expensive machinery for short periods during ploughing, harvest etc.
Celtient wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:51 pm
In the days when farmers ploughed the fields with a donkey's jaw bone pulled by 2 shire horses, it was indeed hard work. Nowadays they sit in a half million pound tractor with a consul like the SS Enterprise and sip lattes while the machinery does the work
But this is part of their point. How much do these new tractors cost to buy .
What is part of their point? Machinery is expensive so they shouldn't have to pay tax? Eh? What?
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:05 pm
Reality is that on many tenanted farms and small and medium sized farms, they rent the expensive machinery for short periods during ploughing, harvest etc.
From the local big farmer. Who hasn't paid any IHT.
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:20 pm
Fantastic comment and it seems to me you are a real defender of free speech. Added to that you come across as someone who takes things seriously and sensitively. You've got a good eye for detail and a very enjoyable writing style which it is a joy to read. Your comments are very important to this forum. Keep it up!!
'Yes, he's a jolly good fellow.....and so say all of us....'
