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Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:12 pm
by EliotNes
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:53 pm Has there ever been a World Cup winning manager who came from a different country to the winning team?
Ask Google.

I'm disappointed that the FA don't think any English managers are better than Tuchel, or did the question of the financial amount of "compensation" involved in nicking a manager from a club put them off?

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:21 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Google says no :(

Exit in the semis it is

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:24 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Apparently I’ve been pronouncing it wrong all these years

There I saying it Took-El when apparently it’s pronounced Too-Shul

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:34 pm
by Mistadobalina
EliotNes wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:12 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:53 pm Has there ever been a World Cup winning manager who came from a different country to the winning team?
Ask Google.

I'm disappointed that the FA don't think any English managers are better than Tuchel, or did the question of the financial amount of "compensation" involved in nicking a manager from a club put them off?
The disappointment should be more aimed at the fact that we as a country don't produce many good coaches. There clearly aren't any English managers better than Tuchel and their priority is winning a tournament. If they'd gone for Potter or Howe, they'd be getting pelters for appointing someone who'd never won anything.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:42 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Mistadobalina wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:34 pm
EliotNes wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:12 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:53 pm Has there ever been a World Cup winning manager who came from a different country to the winning team?
Ask Google.

I'm disappointed that the FA don't think any English managers are better than Tuchel, or did the question of the financial amount of "compensation" involved in nicking a manager from a club put them off?
The disappointment should be more aimed at the fact that we as a country don't produce many good coaches. There clearly aren't any English managers better than Tuchel and their priority is winning a tournament. If they'd gone for Potter or Howe, they'd be getting pelters for appointing someone who'd never won anything.
Think you’ll find Potter won the Svenska Cupen :ugeek:

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:19 pm
by Yanzi Gravy
We are now the laughing stock of the football world,
Sir Alf Ramsey must be spinning in his grave.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:38 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:41 pm You can work it out yourself, I'm sure - but that's if you really want to.
oh right, so you can't justify/tell me why you dont want a German as England manager. Must be xenophobia then because that's genuinely all i can think of and you won't say otherwise.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:09 pm
by Yanzi Gravy
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:38 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:41 pm You can work it out yourself, I'm sure - but that's if you really want to.
oh right, so you can't justify/tell me why you dont want a German as England manager. Must be xenophobia then because that's genuinely all i can think of and you won't say otherwise.
Would the Germans have an English Manager?

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:34 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Yanzi Gravy wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:09 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:38 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:41 pm You can work it out yourself, I'm sure - but that's if you really want to.
oh right, so you can't justify/tell me why you dont want a German as England manager. Must be xenophobia then because that's genuinely all i can think of and you won't say otherwise.
Would the Germans have an English Manager?
I don’t know. That’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking CCH and you why you don’t want a German manager? Don’t think it’s that hard to answer considering you both seem a bit annoyed by it.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:13 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:38 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:41 pm You can work it out yourself, I'm sure - but that's if you really want to.
oh right, so you can't justify/tell me why you dont want a German as England manager. Must be xenophobia then because that's genuinely all i can think of and you won't say otherwise.
Carry on thinking whatever you wish..

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:30 pm
by one o in huntingdon
These are just the first steps down a slippery slope.
Before you know it the humble British banger will be supplanted by the schweinhund Bratwurst.
Then its auf wiedersehen pint of bitter and hallo 500ml of weissbier.
Where will it all end?

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:40 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:13 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:38 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:41 pm You can work it out yourself, I'm sure - but that's if you really want to.
oh right, so you can't justify/tell me why you dont want a German as England manager. Must be xenophobia then because that's genuinely all i can think of and you won't say otherwise.
Carry on thinking whatever you wish..
Truly bizzare. At least have the bollocks to stand by your convinctions.

Any way good luck Thomas. You’re gonna need it with the English fanbase

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:24 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Calm down. There's no need to get so frustrated and angry over something so trivial in life.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:32 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
RTW you’re being a wee bit over the top here. I’m not fussed either way about Tuchel, but it’s undeniable that in footballing terms, a lot of England fans have, rightly or wrongly, seen Germany as our biggest rivals. As a result, there’s an initial sense by some that even potential success might be a bit undermined by being directed by someone from our rivals. That would make a German manager a different proposition to a Swede, or even an Italian (even though Italy have been much more of a spoiler team for England in the last 15 years or so)

Best to just let people have their adjustment period to it, and then see how it goes

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:37 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:32 pm RTW you’re being a wee bit over the top here. I’m not fussed either way about Tuchel, but it’s undeniable that in footballing terms, a lot of England fans have, rightly or wrongly, seen Germany as our biggest rivals. As a result, there’s an initial sense by some that even potential success might be a bit undermined by being directed by someone from our rivals. That would make a German manager a different proposition to a Swede, or even an Italian (even though Italy have been much more of a spoiler team for England in the last 15 years or so)

Best to just let people have their adjustment period to it, and then see how it goes
Well that was easy wasn’t it? Someone able to articulate why they might not want a German in a role. I don’t really get why it would be a problem still but all I was asking was some articulation considering cch was very clear it’s definitely not xenophobia at play

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:42 pm
by Dunners
It's literally what Hitler would have wanted!

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:47 pm
by Dunners
Actually, it probably is.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:16 am
by Perry Combover
If yhere was an English manager who was as qualified as Tuchel to take on the England job,he would have got it.There isn't. Any native coach would have been a punt and as such,Tuchel is a logical choice.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:19 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Thinking about it, i can't believe we employed a manager from the north.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:52 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Perry Combover wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:16 am If yhere was an English manager who was as qualified as Tuchel to take on the England job,he would have got it.There isn't. Any native coach would have been a punt and as such,Tuchel is a logical choice.

Any native coach would have been a WHAT?

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:31 am
by Proposition Joe
Yanzi Gravy wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:09 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:38 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:41 pm You can work it out yourself, I'm sure - but that's if you really want to.
oh right, so you can't justify/tell me why you dont want a German as England manager. Must be xenophobia then because that's genuinely all i can think of and you won't say otherwise.
Would the Germans have an English Manager?
Probably, if we had any decent candidates.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:03 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
It’s a Dutch manager that Germans would have an issue with

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:33 pm
by one o in huntingdon
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:03 pm It’s a Dutch manager that Germans would have an issue with
I think it would be more unpopular if those roles were reversed.

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:35 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Also true

Re: Thomas Tuchel - Next England Manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:41 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:37 pm
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:32 pm RTW you’re being a wee bit over the top here. I’m not fussed either way about Tuchel, but it’s undeniable that in footballing terms, a lot of England fans have, rightly or wrongly, seen Germany as our biggest rivals. As a result, there’s an initial sense by some that even potential success might be a bit undermined by being directed by someone from our rivals. That would make a German manager a different proposition to a Swede, or even an Italian (even though Italy have been much more of a spoiler team for England in the last 15 years or so)

Best to just let people have their adjustment period to it, and then see how it goes
Well that was easy wasn’t it? Someone able to articulate why they might not want a German in a role. I don’t really get why it would be a problem still but all I was asking was some articulation considering cch was very clear it’s definitely not xenophobia at play
Ceb2..he knows this. He's now pretending that would have been his reaction to my reply, and at the same time siding with you.