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Posted: **Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:58 pm**

I'm still on one of the first exercises in that book you recommended, the one where you have to follow the outline of an object with your eyes and, without looking at the paper, try and sketch it out. I have a basic vase that I've been attempting to draw and, so far, my sketches do not look like a vase.

Posted: **Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:23 pm**

That’s alright though, the main point of exercises like that ends up being that it makes being able to look feel like a superpower.

But the trick is eventually to just get a bit of a sense of how your eye translates stuff to the page. It’s not an easy exercise at all. I’d probably be as bad at it as anyone right now as I’m out of practice with the basics

Posted: **Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:25 pm**

Anyway, here’s the finished drawing:

Posted: **Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:07 am**

Very good. Like the small details like the little wrinkle on her near elbow and the vein under the skin.

Posted: **Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:17 am**

Pffft. That's nothing. You should see my vase.

Posted: **Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:17 am**

Cheers. BTW, on the lighting, I think the light source is more from central ish left, below the model’s eye level, and closer to the viewer than the model (if that sentence hasn’t bored you to death)

I mocked up a more intense light source from both possibles, and I think the shadows are more consistent with lower left:

or

It’s the angle of the shadow on the box that swings it

Posted: **Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:42 am**

Somebody get that lassie a Supersize Big Mac meal before she starves to death.

Posted: **Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:50 am**

Is it Iggy Pop?

Posted: **Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:54 am**

I think it might be Bono in more ways than one.

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:21 am**

Most recent one. This was supposed to be a quick one hour sketch but I got into it and spent quite a bit of time on it

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:50 am**

I prefer the one showing her pubic hair

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:46 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:54 am I think it might be Bono in more ways than one.

Nah, not me, oh sorry….

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:34 pm**

What artists inspire you CEB? (outside of Katy Perry obvs)

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:39 pm**

By inspire do you mean copycat.

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:35 pm**

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:34 pm What artists inspire you CEB? (outside of Katy Perry obvs)

In terms of well known artists, big fan of Lucien Freud and Jenny Saville. There’s an American portrait artist called Joshua Larock who is absolutely brilliant and has an incredibly delicate touch with his oil paintings.

Less well known is an artist called Daniel Maidman, whose nude sketches I love and I would like to be ten percent as good as he is.
I’ve got a real affection for commercial illustrators outside of the fine art world too, though - Iain McCaig’s illustrations I particularly like.
In terms of digital painting, while he doesn’t work in the same style as me, there’s a guy called Nikolai Lockertson who takes digital painting to another level.

There’s also a graffiti artist called Dan Kitchener who I love, who also does these impressionistic urban landscape digital paintings - the simplicity of them, but building up to a complex image, is brilliant.

Also, there’s a student who did the same illustration degree as me, named Yukina Tokumoto who does the most beautiful sketches of daily life you’ll ever see. She just sits on location and draws, and her work has to be seen to be believed.

Also a writer and illustrator named Joff Winterhart, draws these incredibly expressive character drawings in his graphic novels. Check out “driving short distances” if you like that sort of thing (it’s a graphic novel but it’s not superheroes. It’s about a guy who gets a dead end job working with a guy whose job involves driving between industrial estates, selling something (he’s not sure what)

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:20 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:42 am Somebody get that lassie a Supersize Big Mac meal before she starves to death.

My thoughts exactly . Should’ve drawn her with some more meat on her . Apart from that it’s another extremely good drawing

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:34 pm**

Yeah it’d definitely be a better drawing if I just decided not to draw the model how she looks.

Thanks for the tip

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:56 pm**

CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:35 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:34 pm What artists inspire you CEB? (outside of Katy Perry obvs)
In terms of well known artists, big fan of Lucien Freud and Jenny Saville. There’s an American portrait artist called Joshua Larock who is absolutely brilliant and has an incredibly delicate touch with his oil paintings.

Less well known is an artist called Daniel Maidman, whose nude sketches I love and I would like to be ten percent as good as he is.
I’ve got a real affection for commercial illustrators outside of the fine art world too, though - Iain McCaig’s illustrations I particularly like.
In terms of digital painting, while he doesn’t work in the same style as me, there’s a guy called Nikolai Lockertson who takes digital painting to another level.

There’s also a graffiti artist called Dan Kitchener who I love, who also does these impressionistic urban landscape digital paintings - the simplicity of them, but building up to a complex image, is brilliant.

Also, there’s a student who did the same illustration degree as me, named Yukina Tokumoto who does the most beautiful sketches of daily life you’ll ever see. She just sits on location and draws, and her work has to be seen to be believed.

Also a writer and illustrator named Joff Winterhart, draws these incredibly expressive character drawings in his graphic novels. Check out “driving short distances” if you like that sort of thing (it’s a graphic novel but it’s not superheroes. It’s about a guy who gets a dead end job working with a guy whose job involves driving between industrial estates, selling something (he’s not sure what)

Just looked up larock whose stuff is mental. Will look up the others.

Love Freud. I went to an exhibition a few years ago of his and I just stared, close up at some of his drawings and paintings and they still defied belief. Just able to capture something ethereal and intense

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:25 pm**

CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:34 pm Yeah it’d definitely be a better drawing if I just decided not to draw the model how she looks.

Thanks for the tip

Didnt do Picasso any harm.

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:51 pm**

Never heard of them

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:09 pm**

I'm not sure these drawings are saying much artistically, other than revealing some of your kinks. I'm concerned you may be operating some sort of casting couch, with middle aged women being your victims.

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:42 pm**

The idea of art having to “say something” isn’t really the sort of thing I’m interested in - for me, I like art because of the aesthetics of it, and if I want it to say something, it’s usually when it’s in service of a narrative/an illustration, rather than something I’d hope would be analysed by people into such things as “meanings” behind art works.
Bang to rights on the kinks though - how many can you spot?

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:52 pm**

The feet are a reoccurring theme...

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:54 pm**

Just an innocent aesthetic choice, just like Tarantino

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:04 pm**

Wish I could draw / sketch half as well as that. Although, Mrs OMAB would not see the artistic side if I was in a room with a naked lady.

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