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Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:50 pm
by Max B Gold
What regulations and taxes do you want to slash?
Concrete and specific examples in your answer please.
Please also define what you mean by "bloated state".
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:27 pm
by Lucky7
He’s got a point re the bloated state
The NHS is spending millions upon millions on the obesity problem
Bring back rationing
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:29 pm
by Beradogs
19,000 EU rules and regulations
25% of national income goes to social care. I just don’t want to be paying my fellow humans, the majority of which I cannot stand, 1 out of every 4 pounds I earn. In America it’s 12%. Which seems more reasonable?
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:46 pm
by point nine one eight
Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:38 pm
point nine one eight wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:39 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:24 pm
Lying is democracy?
Don’t make me laugh.
Thought it had gone quite a bit lately, have you been on holiday or something, welcome back
Hospital actually.
Brexit is still ****.
As they used to say at one firm I worked for, Sorry to hear that, hope it's nothing trivial. Seriously hope you are fit and well now
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:03 pm
by Max B Gold
Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:29 pm
19,000 EU rules and regulations
25% of national income goes to social care. I just don’t want to be paying my fellow humans, the majority of which I cannot stand, 1 out of every 4 pounds I earn. In America it’s 12%. Which seems more reasonable?
Not a very specific answer regarding taxes or regulations. Crap reply.
Your NHS point and comparison with the US is just nonsense. There are 30 million people who don't have any medical care in the US and many more where the insurance based care is sub standard.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:10 pm
by Admin
Ask any leaver which EU rules / regulations they can't wait to see the back of.
Guarantee within 3 minutes you'll hear the words banana, European Army and fish.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:28 pm
by Lucky7
I’d have gone for tea bags balloons and toasters
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:34 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
admin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:10 pm
Ask any leaver which EU rules / regulations they can't wait to see the back of.
Guarantee within 3 minutes you'll hear the words banana, European Army and fish.
IMO , to want a European Army is banana's. It all smells a bit fishy to me.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:26 pm
by Beradogs
Bananas and fish.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:37 pm
by Max B Gold
Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:26 pm
Bananas and fish.
The bananas thing was made up and the fish is down to greedy fishermen and illegal and over fishing.
Anyway you're not being very specific. Another crap answer. You would be as well saying just have faith in Brexit everything will be fine.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:35 pm
by Admin
Note the lack of answers from 2 prominent Brexiters (Bera / RD1881).
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:41 pm
by Mikero
point nine one eight wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:36 am
Mikero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:42 am
The nation has been changed into a giant reflection of the Tory party with all its self interest, bickering, disloyalty, back-stabbing and hypocracy. In a couple of years we will start to see the real reasons for getting us out of the EU when they start to jerrymander the system to create a one-party state.
Mikero
Not too different to the labour party really
Only in that the Labour party have not had the chance to drag us back to the nineteen fifties, whereas this lot are taking us back to the eighteen nineties.
Mikero
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:51 pm
by Mikero
I will try and help. Once you are out from under the European Court you have the freedom to do things that they would have found illegal. In no particular order :-
TUPE - The only way to pay for the public services is to privatise whole swathes of lower paid jobs without the need to maintain their previous terms and conditions. The more you can get on the minimum wage the better.
Working hours - limiting working hours increases costs and therefore profits.
Redundancy pay - Will need to be reduced as the collapse of the car and other industries will cost the government huge sums of money.
Right to strike - Initially for transport, but later to be extended to other areas such as NHS, Education, Civil service etc.
Instant dismissal- Warning letters and notices are waste of time and money.
Employment tribunals- Waste of space.
Party funding- Go back to anonymous funding and bring in regulations to make it impossible for trade unions to fund parties.
Obviously this will generate a lot of protest so will be quickly followed by :-
Right of association- Bans on peaceful demonstrations and meetings above a limited size.
Internet censorship- If you can't stop people organising on line, shut it down.
Press and TV censorship- Neuter the BBC by forcing it to rely on advertising and take away the need for balanced reporting on screen.
Finally:-
Immigration- Withdraw from the international agreement on Political Asylum, increasingly draconian immigration policies leading to repatriation and the deportation of EU nationals as the repercussions of Brexit lead to anger against Britains living in the EU, the Costa Del Sol could well become the Costa Del Misery when we take the fishing rights back.
I hope this helps to point out some of the obvous benefits of Brexit.
Mikero
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:16 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
What crap .
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:29 pm
by Mikero
Is that your reasoned argument or a stop-gap while you think of one?
Mikero
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:36 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Mikero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:29 pm
Is that your reasoned argument or a stop-gap while you think of one?
Mikero
It's your made up hysteria that's crap. Incidentally , I agree about forcing the BBC to start advertising , it's time to scrape the TV licence . Their so bloody bias towards Remain it's gone beyond laughable.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:39 pm
by point nine one eight
Mikero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:51 pm
I will try and help. Once you are out from under the European Court you have the freedom to do things that they would have found illegal. In no particular order :-
TUPE - The only way to pay for the public services is to privatise whole swathes of lower paid jobs without the need to maintain their previous terms and conditions. The more you can get on the minimum wage the better.
Working hours - limiting working hours increases costs and therefore profits.
Redundancy pay - Will need to be reduced as the collapse of the car and other industries will cost the government huge sums of money.
Right to strike - Initially for transport, but later to be extended to other areas such as NHS, Education, Civil service etc.
Instant dismissal- Warning letters and notices are waste of time and money.
Employment tribunals- Waste of space.
Party funding- Go back to anonymous funding and bring in regulations to make it impossible for trade unions to fund parties.
Obviously this will generate a lot of protest so will be quickly followed by :-
Right of association- Bans on peaceful demonstrations and meetings above a limited size.
Internet censorship- If you can't stop people organising on line, shut it down.
Press and TV censorship- Neuter the BBC by forcing it to rely on advertising and take away the need for balanced reporting on screen.
Finally:-
Immigration- Withdraw from the international agreement on Political Asylum, increasingly draconian immigration policies leading to repatriation and the deportation of EU nationals as the repercussions of Brexit lead to anger against Britains living in the EU, the Costa Del Sol could well become the Costa Del Misery when we take the fishing rights back.
I hope this helps to point out some of the obvous benefits of Brexit.
Mikero
Sounds good to me roll on Brexit
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:07 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:39 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:13 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:37 am
Don't worry CCH, given that every single post of yours is some sort of whine, complaint or talking about how much better things used to be, I've come to the conclusion that you don't discriminate and that you simply hate all things in existence.
You've more or less only confirmed what I'm saying. When you are scratching around for something more to add you (you, as in remainers) have to resort to making things up about the past, foreigners etc. And also having to resort by saying how, 'I hate all things in existence'. All this because I have a different view to you. You sound like your living a life of fantasy. And rest assured mista, I love and enjoy life.
You've spent the entire thread insulting remain voters and then get defensive when responded to in kind.
Exaggerating and making things up again Mista. The remoaners word is a general term used these days - hardly 'insulting'. I think it's YOU that should take a look at yourself here. You've wound yourself up over nothing because I don't go along with your views. You need to chill out.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:58 am
by Mikero
Remoaner is a pejorative designed to belittle the arguments, not only of those who wish to remain in the EU but also any who, while accepting the result of the vote, have the temerity to question the way it is being implimented.
It is clearly abusive.
Mikero
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:27 am
by Chief crazy horse
"Abusive?" my a--e. If that's the case goodness knows how you would describe the majority of posts on here.
But, I think you're just having a bit of a laugh.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:59 am
by Mikero
They are following Trump, never answer a criticism just abuse the person making it. "Crooked Hilary" was only the start of it. The posts on here clearly show this, when you cannot counter an argument resort to abuse, 75% of threads will end in ego driven bickering anyway. The press, the Sun in particular, is very keen on shortening and in various other ways altering peoples names, as if to say we are going to take away your right to have your own name by giving you another one. This is abusive. There are many people on here who suffer from this name phobia as if by not using a correct name it somehow makes them superior when it truth it comes across as the complete opposite.
Mikero
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:18 am
by RedDwarf 1881
I mean, listing peaceful demonstrations over a certain size and controlling the media. We’re not going to morph into communist China. By all means defend the Remain cause if you wish but please keep it real .
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:26 am
by Max B Gold
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:27 am
"Abusive?" my a--e. If that's the case goodness knows how you would describe the majority of posts on here.
But, I think you're just having a bit of a laugh.
I'm offended by it.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:28 am
by Max B Gold
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:18 am
I mean, listing peaceful demonstrations over a certain size and controlling the media. We’re not going to morph into communist China. By all means defend the Remain cause if you wish but please keep it real .
Just because China describes itself as communist doesn't mean to say it actually is.
On the other hand UKIP describes itself as a bigoted anti muslim proto fascist party which it is.
Re: Brexit Effect
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:45 am
by Max B Gold
Lucky7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:27 pm
He’s got a point re the bloated state
The NHS is spending millions upon millions on the obesity problem
Bring back rationing
Its a pity they haven't found a cure for your verbal diahorrea.