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Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:48 pm
by Mistadobalina
They definitely have a way out if he voluntarily steps down. They aren't particularly democratic, but both parties used to do contested conventions all the time, they then put someone in who still has their marbles and can say with a straight face look at how mentally infirm trump is. It's their only reasonable option at this stage, sticking with Biden is impossible.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:55 pm
by Proposition Joe
Mistadobalina wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:48 am Had to force myself to watch some clips to see how bad it was as I find public humiliation pretty unbearable, and it managed to even worse than I feared. Surely his wife and close circle take him aside and tell him to stand down for his own good. Still think the Dems could win with anyone not called Harris or Biden.
There's definitely a need for an intervention of some kind. He could surely have done the one term - main mission to beat Trump, save the nation etc, then do a few bits and bobs that aren't chaotic and have a handover plan in place. Absolute madness that he's decided to stick around for another go and that, seemingly, no-one close to him has pushed for a succession candidate.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:00 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:24 pm I just don't see how he can be the candidate come November, but I also don't see how the Dems swap him out for someone else in time either.
Time for Bernie

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:03 pm
by Max B Gold
Proposition Joe wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:55 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:48 am Had to force myself to watch some clips to see how bad it was as I find public humiliation pretty unbearable, and it managed to even worse than I feared. Surely his wife and close circle take him aside and tell him to stand down for his own good. Still think the Dems could win with anyone not called Harris or Biden.
There's definitely a need for an intervention of some kind. He could surely have done the one term - main mission to beat Trump, save the nation etc, then do a few bits and bobs that aren't chaotic and have a handover plan in place. Absolute madness that he's decided to stick around for another go and that, seemingly, no-one close to him has pushed for a succession candidate.
And all with the support of a compliant media


Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:11 pm
by Max B Gold
She's changed her tune


Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:11 pm
by Proposition Joe
Yeah, might look great written down but that's not how people take this stuff in any more. FFS.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:13 pm
by Dunners
Is Emily Maitlis even a thing in the US media?

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:18 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:13 pm Is Emily Maitlis even a thing in the US media?
This may shock you but the Interspazz has world wide reach.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:20 pm
by Ski Sunday
Can someone please put a Biden or Trump poll up? .... ( Sorry guys but I dont know how to do it)

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:37 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
I've just watched some of last nights debate and Jeezus, Biden was bad . I thought he was a car crash in slow motion . I actually felt sorry for him becasue obviously he's not a well man . The thing is though Biden is supposed to be the leader of the Western world and to think he has his finger on the nuclear button is bloody scary . The interesting thing now is what shenanigans are the Democrats going to pull to replace him . They make the law up as they go along so anything is possible .

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:02 am
by E10EU
I hope that Biden will have some good advisors and listen to them.
He has generally done a good job (apart from his backing of Netanyahu). Time for somebody else to bring a strong stance of sanity against the madness of the convict Trump.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:36 am
by Currywurst and Chips
E10EU wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:04 am There's life in the old Biden yet
E10EU wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:02 am I hope that Biden will have some good advisors and listen to them.
He has generally done a good job (apart from his backing of Netanyahu). Time for somebody else to bring a strong stance of sanity against the madness of the convict Trump.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:51 am
by E10EU
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:36 am
E10EU wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:04 am There's life in the old Biden yet
E10EU wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:02 am I hope that Biden will have some good advisors and listen to them.
He has generally done a good job (apart from his backing of Netanyahu). Time for somebody else to bring a strong stance of sanity against the madness of the convict Trump.
I stand by both my comments. He did the right thing to end the Assange mega issue in a sane solution.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:55 am
by cymruO
Greetings from USA. Watched the whole show last night and while journeying back from NJ to upstate NY caught all the opinions today. Biden's performance was a shambles and whatever his policies, achievements etc none of that counted at all. It's all about his unfitness to run. He has to - there is no one else who has a ghost of a chance of beating Trump.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:15 am
by Adz
He's not standing down, so trump it is. I think he'll push through people and powers that mean the democrats will never have power even when they next win again

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:25 am
by Dunners
The anti-NATO crowd could get the outcome they think they've always wanted.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:57 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:25 am The anti-NATO crowd could get the outcome they think they've always wanted.
Trump isn't anti NATO . He just wants other NATO members to pay their fair share which they all agreed upon .

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:10 pm
by Give it to Jabo
Blimey, even BJ left when he knew the time was up…

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:01 pm
by Long slender neck
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:37 pm I've just watched some of last nights debate and Jeezus, Biden was bad . I thought he was a car crash in slow motion . I actually felt sorry for him becasue obviously he's not a well man . The thing is though Biden is supposed to be the leader of the Western world and to think he has his finger on the nuclear button is bloody scary . The interesting thing now is what shenanigans are the Democrats going to pull to replace him . They make the law up as they go along so anything is possible .
Whats it got to do with the law? They can choose another candidate, their party just doesn't seem to have any particular rules or process to do that at this stage.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:17 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Mistadobalina wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:48 pm They definitely have a way out if he voluntarily steps down. They aren't particularly democratic, but both parties used to do contested conventions all the time, they then put someone in who still has their marbles and can say with a straight face look at how mentally infirm trump is. It's their only reasonable option at this stage, sticking with Biden is impossible.
Biden has already insisted he will fight and win the November election . Anyway , whatever shenanigans the Democrats pull they will disenfranchise their core voters because nobody would have voted for the new person on the ticket .

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:41 am
by Dunners
Reading this morning how Biden's family have convinced him to keep on, with shifting the blame for his performance onto his advisors.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:31 am
by faldO
Lot of money overnight on Kamala Harris to be the democratic nominee, and she is now in many places 2nd favourite to be the next POTUS (after Trump).

Strange, given she is often touted as the one person who is actually worse than Biden in the public eye.

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:55 am
by Brigs
faldO wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:31 am Lot of money overnight on Kamala Harris to be the democratic nominee, and she is now in many places 2nd favourite to be the next POTUS (after Trump).

Strange, given she is often touted as the one person who is actually worse than Biden in the public eye.
What if President Biden gets somebody to shoot Trump?

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:18 pm
by faldO
Brigs wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:55 am
faldO wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:31 am Lot of money overnight on Kamala Harris to be the democratic nominee, and she is now in many places 2nd favourite to be the next POTUS (after Trump).

Strange, given she is often touted as the one person who is actually worse than Biden in the public eye.
What if President Biden gets somebody to shoot Trump?
You mean somebody like BBC presenter David Aaronovitch?

Re: Biden v. Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:31 pm
by Brigs
faldO wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:18 pm
Brigs wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:55 am
faldO wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:31 am Lot of money overnight on Kamala Harris to be the democratic nominee, and she is now in many places 2nd favourite to be the next POTUS (after Trump).

Strange, given she is often touted as the one person who is actually worse than Biden in the public eye.
What if President Biden gets somebody to shoot Trump?
You mean somebody like BBC presenter David Aaronovitch?
If there is such a thing as an afterlife then why not,
I was referring to Trumps immunity from presidential acts. If Biden was to get someone to shoot Trump as a presidential act, surely Biden can't be prosecuted?