Re: Stop and Search
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:41 pm
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One of my sons friends, a young man, was black and drove a very nice car, all legal. He was stopped on a regular basis for a “produce” as they called it.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:05 am Black guy I used to work with had the same name as a well known Britpop icon and said every time he got pulled over by Old Bill and gave them his name they went mental and gave him loads of grief about mugging them off until he pulled his ID out. I thought it was a relatively funny anecdote until he added just how many times this happened and how many times he'd 'randomly' get pulled over. Wasn't that funny after that.
Firstly, what you can and cant recall doesn't factor into any stats.Redcard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:21 pm Firstly, the graph relating to terrorism is nonsense on stilts. I cannot recall other than the one death at finsbury park mosque a murder by right wing extremists , by contrast the multiple deaths at London bridge,7/7, Westminster and Manchester to name just a few, all carried out by Muslims.
The other graph proves my point, more stabbing by blacks than whites even though the white population is probably 10 times greater. So your so called facts are self defeating and more than prove my point.
RedCard stop embarrassing yourself ffs and send yourself offApple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:46 pmFirstly, what you can and cant recall doesn't factor into any stats.Redcard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:21 pm Firstly, the graph relating to terrorism is nonsense on stilts. I cannot recall other than the one death at finsbury park mosque a murder by right wing extremists , by contrast the multiple deaths at London bridge,7/7, Westminster and Manchester to name just a few, all carried out by Muslims.
The other graph proves my point, more stabbing by blacks than whites even though the white population is probably 10 times greater. So your so called facts are self defeating and more than prove my point.
Secondly, learn to read graphs.
I’m not commenting on the stats, who knows, what I do know is when commenting on percentages of people arrested it’s good to equate that to the numbers of each group as a percentage of the overall population. So many ways to slice and dice numbers.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:49 pmRedCard stop embarrassing yourself ffs and send yourself offApple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:46 pmFirstly, what you can and cant recall doesn't factor into any stats.Redcard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:21 pm Firstly, the graph relating to terrorism is nonsense on stilts. I cannot recall other than the one death at finsbury park mosque a murder by right wing extremists , by contrast the multiple deaths at London bridge,7/7, Westminster and Manchester to name just a few, all carried out by Muslims.
The other graph proves my point, more stabbing by blacks than whites even though the white population is probably 10 times greater. So your so called facts are self defeating and more than prove my point.
Secondly, learn to read graphs.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.joe. ... oup-199371
Statistics, statistics......Since 2001, there have been almost 100 terrorist-related deaths in Great Britain, the vast majority linked to Islamic extremism. 1,834 people were arrested in the UK from September 2001 to December 2009 in connection with terrorism, of which 422 were charged with terrorism-related offences and 237 were convicted.
I think you'll find that this data refers to the USA - not the UK.
Firstly, where did i say it was the UK only? I know where I got it from, and if you refer to the original post by RedCard, the learned gentleman said, "Fact one the vast majority of terrorist acts throughout the world are perpetuated by Muslims."Fatbaz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:29 pm I'm glad that gave you a laugh Wumble.
I thought that it was particularly funny as you'd urged 'RedCard' to "..learn to read graphs..".
May I suggest that you learn to examine your 'source material' more closely?
Here's the graph in it's original article:
https://www.revealnews.org/author/david ... tive-fund/
The second feature down - 'Far right extremists have hatched far more terror plots than anyone else in recent years'.
Semi interesting graph.What's the ratios for this based on population please?
Quite a long winded way of showing off about your sports car.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:46 pmOne of my sons friends, a young man, was black and drove a very nice car, all legal. He was stopped on a regular basis for a “produce” as they called it.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:05 am Black guy I used to work with had the same name as a well known Britpop icon and said every time he got pulled over by Old Bill and gave them his name they went mental and gave him loads of grief about mugging them off until he pulled his ID out. I thought it was a relatively funny anecdote until he added just how many times this happened and how many times he'd 'randomly' get pulled over. Wasn't that funny after that.
My son who is white, often used my car, a sporty fast two door job, all legal. He too got stopped by the police on a regular basis for a “produce”. His mate used to go on about being stopped because he was black. Until my son started to get the same treatment.
Wasn’t a case of black or white, just some young kid driving a fast, flash car late at night that attracted the attention of old bill. Young, flash car = stolen. My son just kept copies of insurance and licence etc with him to save time.
Cool story, doh.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:46 pmOne of my sons friends, a young man, was black and drove a very nice car, all legal. He was stopped on a regular basis for a “produce” as they called it.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:05 am Black guy I used to work with had the same name as a well known Britpop icon and said every time he got pulled over by Old Bill and gave them his name they went mental and gave him loads of grief about mugging them off until he pulled his ID out. I thought it was a relatively funny anecdote until he added just how many times this happened and how many times he'd 'randomly' get pulled over. Wasn't that funny after that.
My son who is white, often used my car, a sporty fast two door job, all legal. He too got stopped by the police on a regular basis for a “produce”. His mate used to go on about being stopped because he was black. Until my son started to get the same treatment.
Wasn’t a case of black or white, just some young kid driving a fast, flash car late at night that attracted the attention of old bill. Young, flash car = stolen. My son just kept copies of insurance and licence etc with him to save time.
Made up black friend, more like.