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CEB wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:34 pm That seems a rather lopsided way of looking on it. The “failure of Labour to win it” may well be something for Labour to reflect on. But the impact of not voting for the least worst option, taking on board every issue rather than one, is one that would be felt disproportionately by those who couldn’t hold their nose.

At the risk of stating the obvious, the Tory voters are pretty damned good at voting for their overall interests

You are taking the Dunners line of Labour voter entitlement. And yes, I get your point about people suffering and I don't like that as an outcome because people would not take the "least worst option". But demanding they vote Labour (as the least worst option ) and are really voting Tory if they don't is not on.

By witholding their vote or going elswhere Labour have been sent a message they need to listen to. In any event Starmer & Co don't want left wing votes but cry into their cornflakes when they don't get them. Can't have your cake and eat it.

Yes, Tories are good at voting for their overall interests but this is less so now (eg Reform Party surge) and are facing anihalation. Don't forget they've always managed to persuade a third of the working class to vote against their interests.

I'm sure Khan will win. And for what its worth if I was still living in London I would probably have voted for him.

Its just thick to not vote for the least worst option isnt it?

I didnt particuarly like Corbyn, but I still voted Labour in those GE's he lost because the alternative was Tories.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:54 pm Its just thick to not vote for the least worst option isnt it?

I didnt particuarly like Corbyn, but I still voted Labour in those GE's he lost because the alternative was Tories.

It's even thicker to believe that's how electoral politics should operate.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:57 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:54 pm Its just thick to not vote for the least worst option isnt it?

I didnt particuarly like Corbyn, but I still voted Labour in those GE's he lost because the alternative was Tories.

It's even thicker to believe that's how electoral politics should operate.

He’s not saying it should. He’s saying that’s how it actually is.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:57 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:54 pm Its just thick to not vote for the least worst option isnt it?

I didnt particuarly like Corbyn, but I still voted Labour in those GE's he lost because the alternative was Tories.

It's even thicker to believe that's how electoral politics should operate.

Dont hate da playa, hate da game.

CEB wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:00 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:57 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:54 pm Its just thick to not vote for the least worst option isnt it?

I didnt particuarly like Corbyn, but I still voted Labour in those GE's he lost because the alternative was Tories.

It's even thicker to believe that's how electoral politics should operate.

He’s not saying it should. He’s saying that’s how it actually is.

Really

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:55 am Sorted out a postal vote which I completed 2 weeks ago and then forgot to send. If it comes down to one vote, it's all my fault.

Phew, needn't have worried.

What next in British politics?

Good to see the Green Party doing well and almost doubling the number of seats they won.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68956733

Carla Denyer said her party had capitalised on disappointment from Labour voters over its U-turn on green investment, as well as its position on public ownership of public services.