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Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:43 pm F*cking knew it. Wouldn't be surprised if we lose. Abysmal second half. Wellens deserves some of the blame for a baffling number of unprompted subs.

I know some were through injury but doing all your subs by 66 mins seems naive

all over 2-2 it is ffs

All over.
Very disappointing.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:39 pm That was coming. We've handled playing with ten men horribly, getting roasted wide and can't keep the ball. We're gonna blow this.

They just kept coming down our right side, had no answer once Cooper went off

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:50 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:39 pm That was coming. We've handled playing with ten men horribly, getting roasted wide and can't keep the ball. We're gonna blow this.

They just kept coming down our right side, had no answer once Cooper went off

Unless injured Wellens made a mistake

All credit to Exeter, one way traffic even before we went down to 10 men. Disappointing and probably means we're now just trying to stay in 10th place.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:43 pm F*cking knew it. Wouldn't be surprised if we lose. Abysmal second half. Wellens deserves some of the blame for a baffling number of unprompted subs.

Sotoriou Beckles Cooper injured, Hunt & Sanders getting roasted & Pigott for being Pigott. Hardly unprompted.

3 tactical subs that early when two players had already come off injured obviously a massive and unnecessary risk. That's not a hindsight thing, thought it was odd at the time.

Regardless of whether he should have made so many subs early or not, sitting so deep with nobody even close to the opposition half and lumping the ball back to them to reload and go again for 10+ minutes like some training drill is just asking for trouble.

That Exeter equaliser is up there with one of the most inevitable goals I’ve ever witnessed.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:03 pm 3 tactical subs that early when two players had already come off injured obviously a massive and unnecessary risk. That's not a hindsight thing, thought it was odd at the time.

Just about experimenting at this stage in the season

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:12 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:03 pm 3 tactical subs that early when two players had already come off injured obviously a massive and unnecessary risk. That's not a hindsight thing, thought it was odd at the time.

Just about experimenting at this stage in the season

Excellent opportunity to experiment against Derby on Saturday with only one centre back available!

corkeireorient wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:16 pm

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:13 pm

corkeireorient wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:10 pm Is that " our Tom Carrol that was " playing for them ?

Yes.

Well then " we know what happens next " !!!!

The Reverend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:10 pm Regardless of whether he should have made so many subs early or not, sitting so deep with nobody even close to the opposition half and lumping the ball back to them to reload and go again for 10+ minutes like some training drill is just asking for trouble.

That Exeter equaliser is up there with one of the most inevitable goals I’ve ever witnessed.

The way Exeter pressed us, what else could they do. Try & pass it Exeter just took it off us.

Who cares? It was a meaningless game.

Attack vs Defence for the last 20 minutes, rarely seen anything like it. Whenever we won the ball back we just hoofed it downfield with noone chasing and zero attempt to even hold on to it, waiting for it to come straight back. Weird.

Sweeney and Obeiro both staking claims for a place in our 24/25 squad. Impressed with both - Sweeney was up against a right handful and managed him well.

Can’t fault the tactics once we went down to 10 - with Moncur as one of the 10, you can’t leave one up top. But doing all the subs so early was a mistake.

I thought Exeter were a decent side, played nice stuff but just had no cutting edge. 11 v 11 and they wouldn’t have scored. You can see why they’ve also fallen just short of the play offs.

When Pigott was on the pitch it was a bit like 10 v 11 even then.
RW obviously made a few errors with the subs but probably thought by just defending our box we might hang on and still get a win. Anyway, it was all a bit meaningless but Exeter were a decent side who moved the ball around well and maybe deserved a point .
Obeiro again looked decent while Sweeney won’t come across much better than the Chelsea loanee he was marking.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:08 pm You can see why they’ve also fallen just short of the play offs.

And you can see why we have too.

An entertaining game though.

"But doing all the subs so early was a mistake ". You don't say!

Att: 7028. Lowest of the season.

Pigott - I don’t think I’ve even seen anyone with such a knack for being in the right place at the wrong time. Poor sod didn’t have the ball drop for him once all evening, I don’t think he touched the ball more than a dozen times all night.

A very odd game overall. Our first goal was a fluke, the second came from an Exeter mistake. They didn't threaten at all until Cooper went off, and the we were all over the bloody shop. Disappointing overall but it doesn’t matter.

Also, Simpson. Was impressed with him. We’ll do well to keep him for next season assuming Happe moves on.

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:23 pm When Pigott was on the pitch it was a bit like 10 v 11 even then.
RW obviously made a few errors with the subs but probably thought by just defending our box we might hang on and still get a win. Anyway, it was all a bit meaningless but Exeter were a decent side who moved the ball around well and maybe deserved a point .
Obeiro again looked decent while Sweeney won’t come across much better than the Chelsea loanee he was marking.

For 66mins with Piggot on the pitch we were playing with 10 men, surely he won’t be an Orient player next season.
By far the worst No.9 I have ever seen in an Orient shirt.

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:26 am

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:23 pm When Pigott was on the pitch it was a bit like 10 v 11 even then.
RW obviously made a few errors with the subs but probably thought by just defending our box we might hang on and still get a win. Anyway, it was all a bit meaningless but Exeter were a decent side who moved the ball around well and maybe deserved a point .
Obeiro again looked decent while Sweeney won’t come across much better than the Chelsea loanee he was marking.

For 66mins with Piggot on the pitch we were playing with 10 men, surely he won’t be an Orient player next season.
By far the worst No.9 I have ever seen in an Orient shirt.

He’s had more than enough chances . It’s obviously not going to work for him at Orient. Best for both Pigott and the club that he moves on to start afresh somewhere else.

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:26 am

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:23 pm When Pigott was on the pitch it was a bit like 10 v 11 even then.
RW obviously made a few errors with the subs but probably thought by just defending our box we might hang on and still get a win. Anyway, it was all a bit meaningless but Exeter were a decent side who moved the ball around well and maybe deserved a point .
Obeiro again looked decent while Sweeney won’t come across much better than the Chelsea loanee he was marking.

For 66mins with Piggot on the pitch we were playing with 10 men, surely he won’t be an Orient player next season.
By far the worst No.9 I have ever seen in an Orient shirt.

I'd give that dubious honour to Scowcroft. Pigott has a few goals to his name and that one he scored on the turn was decent, unlike the former who achieved diddly squat at the time.

Pigott would go on par with Michael Symes for me, that's not a good thing either

Really hope we don’t start with Edwards on Saturday.