Re: Players who we don’t need any more
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:54 pm
Ignoring loanees, I wouldn't be gutted if we parted company with any of James, Hunt, Sweeney, Beckles, Pratley, Pigott, and Moncur
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Its not been mentioned much but the most important signing this summer will not be Idris. It will be new investors.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:55 pmThere will be loads of clubs interested 24 years old, full international, 10 goals and 5 assists in his first season in League one. Peterborough watched him quite a bit earlier this season and taking him on a free would be a no brainer. Pigott nearly went to Wimbledon in January he may get offered to them again in the summer he looks past it at our level. We need a permanent first choice keeper I agree and I would rather have Byrne as our back up than Howes tbh.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:53 pmI can’t see many takers to be honest,supposedly Peterborough were interested but on yesterday’s showing they have far better imo. Think people are forgetting we don’t have a permanent keeper so that will take up a wage,you need a good permanent keeper in a team,you can’t keep on loaning them all the time,it makes for no cohesion in the back line. Think the board will have some vital decisions to make come summer.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:42 pm
Ruels out of contract in the summer if he goes we wont get a fee.
It's difficult for the board they have paid out nearly £1 million more in wages than they did last season and we are going to rack up another big loss this financial year, they also want to secure a training ground asap and also need come up with a plan for the stadium. I anticipate that we are going to need fresh investment because I don't think there's a lot more that can be asked of this current crop of directors.
Losses are covered by Eagle Investments but they cant do it forever. We are miles off the break even target we had set so while I think for now no need to be concerned we do need new Investment. Travis and Teague can't go on forever.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:43 pm Am I wrong to be concerned about the accumulation of massive losses year after year with marginal on field progress?
Bloody hell. Maybe have a word with their DoF and see what they're doing that we're not?Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:02 pm
The question I would ask is how the F*** when we are losing two million a year have Stevenage made a profit this season?
Great post LM. I don't though think any new money raised would go on playing budget, last time it all went on capital projects. Realistically though we need to find an extra £million for wages to try and improve the quality of players we bring in....It's a real challenge.LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:37 pmIts not been mentioned much but the most important signing this summer will not be Idris. It will be new investors.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:55 pmThere will be loads of clubs interested 24 years old, full international, 10 goals and 5 assists in his first season in League one. Peterborough watched him quite a bit earlier this season and taking him on a free would be a no brainer. Pigott nearly went to Wimbledon in January he may get offered to them again in the summer he looks past it at our level. We need a permanent first choice keeper I agree and I would rather have Byrne as our back up than Howes tbh.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:53 pm
I can’t see many takers to be honest,supposedly Peterborough were interested but on yesterday’s showing they have far better imo. Think people are forgetting we don’t have a permanent keeper so that will take up a wage,you need a good permanent keeper in a team,you can’t keep on loaning them all the time,it makes for no cohesion in the back line. Think the board will have some vital decisions to make come summer.
It's difficult for the board they have paid out nearly £1 million more in wages than they did last season and we are going to rack up another big loss this financial year, they also want to secure a training ground asap and also need come up with a plan for the stadium. I anticipate that we are going to need fresh investment because I don't think there's a lot more that can be asked of this current crop of directors.
The £10m raised last time covered covid arrears and since then we have run up losses that suggests that the pot is running dry to the extent that current spending may have to be reined in at some point. No new money = no chance of Idris IMO - but it also means shopping around even more than we already do. Next season could be a difficult one on and off the pitch.
FWIW 10 goal forwards are not easy to come by. With Forde going that would be 20 goals heading out the door if Ruel went too. For that reason alone I see us making a significant effort to keep Ruel. I can also see one of James or Hunt going - just because we need to change things around in order to try and move forward. This is not a promotion winning full back combo and many of Ritchie's dealings will be with this in mind.
Only thing I can think of is they do like a cup run.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:10 pmBloody hell. Maybe have a word with their DoF and see what they're doing that we're not?Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:02 pm
The question I would ask is how the F*** when we are losing two million a year have Stevenage made a profit this season?
All still here as far as I know.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:15 pm What happened to the last lot of investors? We were introduced to them at the time with various on-line meetings aired, they were all given specific roles based on their skill sets, some were quite vocal on social media, but I don't hear anything of/from them anymore?
Well one of them (the biggest of the lot) is in some very serious bother.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:15 pm What happened to the last lot of investors? We were introduced to them at the time with various on-line meetings aired, they were all given specific roles based on their skill sets, some were quite vocal on social media, but I don't hear anything of/from them anymore?
Marginal progress?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:43 pm Am I wrong to be concerned about the accumulation of massive losses year after year with marginal on field progress?
My understanding is that the wider spread of investors played a fairly minor part in the overall fundraising.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:15 pm What happened to the last lot of investors? We were introduced to them at the time with various on-line meetings aired, they were all given specific roles based on their skill sets, some were quite vocal on social media, but I don't hear anything of/from them anymore?
Who? Please say moreOyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:13 pmWell one of them (the biggest of the lot) is in some very serious bother.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:15 pm What happened to the last lot of investors? We were introduced to them at the time with various on-line meetings aired, they were all given specific roles based on their skill sets, some were quite vocal on social media, but I don't hear anything of/from them anymore?
If you come out with that comment you need to add more. Who & whyOyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:13 pmWell one of them (the biggest of the lot) is in some very serious bother.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:15 pm What happened to the last lot of investors? We were introduced to them at the time with various on-line meetings aired, they were all given specific roles based on their skill sets, some were quite vocal on social media, but I don't hear anything of/from them anymore?
Coley Parry tried to buy Vitesse, turned out he couldn't actually afford it. Now the Club is heading for relegation, doesn't have a bank account, and might lose their licence. Bloke who owns the stadium has offered to step in but understandably wants Parry out of the picture. Parry won't leave as he wants the dough he's put in back with interest, all the while the crisis is getting deeper and the fans are wondering if they'll even have a club anymore after this season. Shades of Orient in 2017.Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:45 pmWho? Please say moreOyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:13 pmWell one of them (the biggest of the lot) is in some very serious bother.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:15 pm What happened to the last lot of investors? We were introduced to them at the time with various on-line meetings aired, they were all given specific roles based on their skill sets, some were quite vocal on social media, but I don't hear anything of/from them anymore?
I crave success. Is that so wrong?LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:19 pmMarginal progress?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:43 pm Am I wrong to be concerned about the accumulation of massive losses year after year with marginal on field progress?
You don't want much from your football club, do you?
And what we haven’t achieved under Nige isn’t success?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:59 pmI crave success. Is that so wrong?LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:19 pmMarginal progress?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:43 pm Am I wrong to be concerned about the accumulation of massive losses year after year with marginal on field progress?
You don't want much from your football club, do you?
And you don't believe what we have had these past 5 years is success? Two promotions and a decent effort despite limiting factors this year?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:59 pmI crave success. Is that so wrong?LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:19 pmMarginal progress?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:43 pm Am I wrong to be concerned about the accumulation of massive losses year after year with marginal on field progress?
You don't want much from your football club, do you?
Woah!OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:58 pmColey Parry tried to buy Vitesse, turned out he couldn't actually afford it. Now the Club is heading for relegation, doesn't have a bank account, and might lose their licence. Bloke who owns the stadium has offered to step in but understandably wants Parry out of the picture. Parry won't leave as he wants the dough he's put in back with interest, all the while the crisis is getting deeper and the fans are wondering if they'll even have a club anymore after this season. Shades of Orient in 2017.
According the companies house he’s still involved at OrientHoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:28 amWoah!OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:58 pmColey Parry tried to buy Vitesse, turned out he couldn't actually afford it. Now the Club is heading for relegation, doesn't have a bank account, and might lose their licence. Bloke who owns the stadium has offered to step in but understandably wants Parry out of the picture. Parry won't leave as he wants the dough he's put in back with interest, all the while the crisis is getting deeper and the fans are wondering if they'll even have a club anymore after this season. Shades of Orient in 2017.
Literally no idea this was happening? Is he out of Orient then?
Presumably he is committed to the end of this season. Dunno whether he'll sell his stake in order to shore up his finances, or whether Nigel would even want him around anymore. I certainly wouldn't. And you'd think Parry has received a chastening lesson - but not everyone likes learning.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:28 amWoah!OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:58 pmColey Parry tried to buy Vitesse, turned out he couldn't actually afford it. Now the Club is heading for relegation, doesn't have a bank account, and might lose their licence. Bloke who owns the stadium has offered to step in but understandably wants Parry out of the picture. Parry won't leave as he wants the dough he's put in back with interest, all the while the crisis is getting deeper and the fans are wondering if they'll even have a club anymore after this season. Shades of Orient in 2017.
Literally no idea this was happening? Is he out of Orient then?