Port Vale fan chases ref off pitch

[Friend or fart]

Should call yourself Preposterous Joe. Totally swerving the fact you misrepresented a fellow Boarder's comments to push your own strange arguments.

[Proposition Joe]

Misrepresenting the bit where he said "they might have had a gun!" by saying "worrying about guns is a bit over the top" and, in a clearly failed attempt to stop any thickos getting themselves in twist, even saying players should still rightly be wary of confrontation with fans on the pitch? And you're sure it's me pushing an 'strange argument' here?

What a very odd exchange.

[CEB]

There’s something inherently ludicrous about the “could have been carrying a…” argument anyway.

Like, perhaps security is proportionately focused on filtering out knives, guns and nuclear weapons at a previous stage in the process of accessing the ground, thus ensuring that
A: generally speaking, people won’t attempt to bring in weapons because the chance of getting caught Vs absence of a reason to plan to bring a weapon makes smuggling weapons an unattractive proposition

B: that system makes it overwhelmingly likely that pitch invaders are opportunistic idiots motivated by alcohol/drugs/anger and are very unlikely to have arrived at the game intending to take actions that would result in twenty years in prison

[The Reverend]

William Tell said :- " he may have been carrying a knife or gun."
Proposition Joe ( Look at me I'm 'ard ) wades in with " How many times has someone brought a gun into a UK football ground? "
He conveniently drops the knife bit of the argument as he obviously has a few brain cells. But what a terrible bit of Boarding ! We all know that many youngsters carry blades, there is even a thread on this board about it.

I don’t think questioning how many people bring guns to football matches in the UK was a humble brag about being hard.

[CEB]

However, Preposterous Joe is boardin’ 10/10

[CEB]

I think I’m the only person allowed to bring weapons to the ground, because of special dispensation for how many people there would like to lay one on me (or try, anyway)

[Friend or fart]

Whenever Clive jumps to a Boarder's defence, I think it is time for that particular Boarder to give up the practice of Boarding. Amending the printed word smacks of Fascism.

[CEB]

What on Earth are you on about? Amending the printed word?

[Proposition Joe]

Very, very normal posting from FoF here. Very normal.

"Are you *sure* there's much risk of people bringing firearms into football grounds?"
"You sir, are a Nazi".

[Friend or fart]

I explain that I am objecting to Preposterous Joe's tinkering with Willaim Tell's quote being doctored from guns or knives to guns. This is the sort of playing with words that George Orwell brought to our attention. I am sure that PJ & CEB are not quite that thick that they didn't grasp the allusion that I was making, then again! Nuff said from me: CEB & PJ have bored me.

[Hoover Attack]

(or try, anyway)

This sounds like a dare.

[Proposition Joe]

I explain that I am objecting to Preposterous Joe's tinkering with Willaim Tell's quote being doctored from guns or knives to guns. This is the sort of playing with words that George Orwell brought to our attention. I am sure that PJ & CEB are not quite that thick that they didn't grasp the allusion that I was making, then again! Nuff said from me: CEB & PJ have bored me.

I haven't doctored anything. He referred to two things, I picked him up on one of them. I'm sorry the fact you're so monumentally silly bores you, as on this evidence you must be bored quite frequently.

[The Reverend]

I explain that I am objecting to Preposterous Joe's tinkering with Willaim Tell's quote being doctored from guns or knives to guns. This is the sort of playing with words that George Orwell brought to our attention. I am sure that PJ & CEB are not quite that thick that they didn't grasp the allusion that I was making, then again! Nuff said from me: CEB & PJ have bored me.

Do people bring knives to football matches? How many instances of knife crime inside a British stadium has there been in the last decade?

Yes, knife crime in London is an issue in general but I don’t think knives at football specifically is particularly common. Could be wrong but I certainly haven’t been made aware of it.

[Top of the JES]

I wonder how many of these "people" would have the nouse or the bottle to take up the whistle or flag and officiate a match. I don't think so because they would be so biased to one team or the other and then be banned from officiating because they would jump into the crowd and have a punch-up with everyone who critisises their decisions. Numbskulls!

When I stopped playing I qualified as a referee with the London FA. Refereed in the Essex Corinthian league and mostly enjoyed it. As you went up the leagues the playing standard got better and after two seasons I was on the list for the premier division, the lower leagues had a lot of genuine lads who just wanted a game of football but also a lot of nasty bastards who were mainly crap players and interested only in having a ruck or baiting the referee. In the higher division I had some really good banter as I got to know the players and they got to know me it was very competitive but the players had more respect. I also did some inter league games on the line which were interesting. Not sure I would want to do it today.

[CEB]

Still completely baffled by the idea that I have a fascistic desire to “amend the printed word”

[The Reverend]

I wonder how many of these "people" would have the nouse or the bottle to take up the whistle or flag and officiate a match. I don't think so because they would be so biased to one team or the other and then be banned from officiating because they would jump into the crowd and have a punch-up with everyone who critisises their decisions. Numbskulls!

When I stopped playing I qualified as a referee with the London FA. Refereed in the Essex Corinthian league and mostly enjoyed it. As you went up the leagues the playing standard got better and after two seasons I was on the list for the premier division, the lower leagues had a lot of genuine lads who just wanted a game of football but also a lot of nasty bastards who were mainly crap players and interested only in having a ruck or baiting the referee. In the higher division I had some really good banter as I got to know the players and they got to know me it was very competitive but the players had more respect. I also did some inter league games on the line which were interesting. Not sure I would want to do it today.

Did you come across any ex-pros?

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

62 year old man charged, you think he would know better by that age.

[Top of the JES]

I wonder how many of these "people" would have the nouse or the bottle to take up the whistle or flag and officiate a match. I don't think so because they would be so biased to one team or the other and then be banned from officiating because they would jump into the crowd and have a punch-up with everyone who critisises their decisions. Numbskulls!

When I stopped playing I qualified as a referee with the London FA. Refereed in the Essex Corinthian league and mostly enjoyed it. As you went up the leagues the playing standard got better and after two seasons I was on the list for the premier division, the lower leagues had a lot of genuine lads who just wanted a game of football but also a lot of nasty bastards who were mainly crap players and interested only in having a ruck or baiting the referee. In the higher division I had some really good banter as I got to know the players and they got to know me it was very competitive but the players had more respect. I also did some inter league games on the line which were interesting. Not sure I would want to do it today.

Did you come across any ex-pros?

None that I was aware of but a lot of the younger lads in the premier and first divisions played semi-professional On a Saturday., Isthmian league standard mainly playing for expenses.

[Adz]

62 year old man charged, you think he would know better by that age.

62! FFS it's even more pathetic.