Independent Leyton Orient Forum

North Stand Dave wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:25 pm El Mizoni has a slight knock.
The same Pratley & Moncur some of you were slagging off last weekend.
Make your mind up & get some consistency rather than if the cap fits.
Individual mistakes, James x 1 Brown x 2
But still a good atmosphere up here
Why because we are Orient

Pleased to hear the atmosphere is good, watching the game and it’s the best thing about the game hearing The O’s fans.
But sadly Atmosphere doesn’t = points

Wonder if Kent has kicked his TV in yet

Just noticed on Flash Score Stats we are currently showing expected goals 0.00.
Sounds about right.

i8ubutler wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:31 pm Just noticed on Flash Score Stats we are currently showing expected goals 0.00.
Sounds about right.

Way it's going we will be lucky to get the 0!

Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:27 pm The only thing I can hope is this is Wellens taking a tactical thumping to show the DoF and the board that the squad isn't up to it and we need to make a *lot* of changes in January

To be honest the board should already know that without us getting a hammering .

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:36 pm Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.

And therein lies the problem. Didn't recruit L1 proven quality and it's showing badly against all but the very worst sides

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:37 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:27 pm The only thing I can hope is this is Wellens taking a tactical thumping to show the DoF and the board that the squad isn't up to it and we need to make a *lot* of changes in January

To be hones the board should already know that without us getting a hammering .

I'm not sure they do, the soundbite in the Ling podcast where he said Brynn was the best keeper they could find was eye opening. if that's the best they could manage in a key position they ain't looking very hard.

EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:18 pm And Stevenage are 1-0 up. double FFS

Why do people keep going on about what Stevenage are doing ?
Quite obviously this is not last season and they have moved on and improved, but so far, that is not the case with Leyton Orient !

Stevenage second as it stands they score every week and have a manager who knows the plan we on the other hand are clueless
Fatty Evans would get a tune out of this squad for sure

Still fancy the draw

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:37 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:36 pm Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.

And therein lies the problem. Didn't recruit L1 proven quality and it's showing badly against all but the very worst sides

Or trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals

essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:37 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:36 pm Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.

And therein lies the problem. Didn't recruit L1 proven quality and it's showing badly against all but the very worst sides

Or trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals

Though as you see week in week out with Man City sitting in deep and hoping for a draw doesn't work out too well either.

When you've got summer signings like Sanders still not fit enough to start a game at the end of December it's fighting a losing battle.

essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:37 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:36 pm Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.

And therein lies the problem. Didn't recruit L1 proven quality and it's showing badly against all but the very worst sides

Or trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals

Good observation that !

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:14 pm RW please get Happe off he’s embarrassing, this defence is a shambles

You've only just noticed.

Been saying it since our 1st home game
Thrashing by Pompey

Nothing else all of us up here can do but have a sing song & enjoy ourselves.
Bottom line we're not got the players against the likes of Bolton but hopefully we'll pick up some points against teams like Wycombe & Cambridge otherwise we will be in trouble unless wellens gets some backing in January

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:38 pm

EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:18 pm And Stevenage are 1-0 up. double FFS

Why do people keep going on about what Stevenage are doing ?
Quite obviously this is not last season and they have moved on and improved, but so far, that is not the case with Leyton Orient !

I'd be delighted just to survive this season in League One . Give things a better go next season .

Wellens is being properly found out at this level again. Embarrassing stuff.

Dan Kemp scores again

essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:17 pm This is the team that should've started Vs Cheltenham not a top side like Bolton

Bang on. To me Wellens doesn’t know his team or what formations to play. Perhaps that’s why he’s never got higher than this division?

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:26 pm Shocking line up, tactics and some absolutely bonkers mistakes. Happe is so clearly not good enough for this level, it's astonishing he's getting picked.

Who else does the manager have? He can only pick the players in this squad.

Looking on the bright side, we haven’t had any yellow or red cards yet

Funnily we've had more shots including on goal, than we had in the first half vs Cheltenham. Strange old game sometimes.

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:47 pm Looking on the bright side, we haven’t had any yellow or red cards yet

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:47 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:26 pm Shocking line up, tactics and some absolutely bonkers mistakes. Happe is so clearly not good enough for this level, it's astonishing he's getting picked.

Who else does the manager have? He can only pick the players in this squad.

The players he brought in you mean

essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:37 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:36 pm Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.

And therein lies the problem. Didn't recruit L1 proven quality and it's showing badly against all but the very worst sides

Or trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals

I am a big RW fan but I think think there’s some truth in what you say here. Tactically looks wrong to me. Turned up to a gunfight with a dessert spoon.