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So is she AS or just a cheat?

Day 2 and Ash is definitely the flakiest of the original traitors. The new recruit looks like he might crumble as well.

That Zak the Spad guy is a smart cookie but has almost zero people skills.

Hamas endorses Gary Lineker following his recent tweet about suspending Israel from major sporting competitions.

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/gary ... 32640.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68004649

Build ludicrously expensive set for programme nobody watches anymore
Sell it for a loss
Rent it back

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:45 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68004649

Build ludicrously expensive set for programme nobody watches anymore
Sell it for a loss
Rent it back

I saw that , I only had time to glance at it and wondered any freehold land was involved. Reminded me of What Labour did with hospitals under Blair

Reminded me of Brizzy.

More antisemitism at the BBC:

Senior BBC worker who called Jews an ‘invader species’ is finally sacked - as workers say it is a ‘grim’ and ‘frightening’ time to be Jewish at the corporation
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... queva.html

The Apprentice contestant apologises for Israel tweets after receiving ‘specialist training’
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 88313.html

faldO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:08 pm The Apprentice contestant apologises for Israel tweets after receiving ‘specialist training’
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 88313.html

Good to see him booted off the show last night, and his subsequent non-appearance on the "You're Fired" spin-off, apparently because of more outbursts.

Saying a bloke's tweets made after filming had already taken place is evidence of "more antisemitism at the BBC" is a stretch, even for you. Unless you think they should have pulled the whole series once they became aware?

I was on a BBC programme years ago, if I write something objectionable on social media now is it still their fault?

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:23 pm Saying a bloke's tweets made after filming had already taken place is evidence of "more antisemitism at the BBC" is a stretch, even for you. Unless you think they should have pulled the whole series once they became aware?

I was on a BBC programme years ago, if I write something objectionable on social media now is it still their fault?

Perhaps if you tried to get your head around the timelines you'd understand the issue a bit better.

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:37 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:23 pm Saying a bloke's tweets made after filming had already taken place is evidence of "more antisemitism at the BBC" is a stretch, even for you. Unless you think they should have pulled the whole series once they became aware?

I was on a BBC programme years ago, if I write something objectionable on social media now is it still their fault?

Perhaps if you tried to get your head around the timelines you'd understand the issue a bit better.

Maybe you can enlighten us?

Secondly, I've only seen his tweets about Zionism. Did he also tweet anti-semitic stuff?

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:37 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:23 pm Saying a bloke's tweets made after filming had already taken place is evidence of "more antisemitism at the BBC" is a stretch, even for you. Unless you think they should have pulled the whole series once they became aware?

I was on a BBC programme years ago, if I write something objectionable on social media now is it still their fault?

Perhaps if you tried to get your head around the timelines you'd understand the issue a bit better.

Well the report you shared referred to posts made after October 7th, which it's fair to assume is well after the show was filmed. If that's not the case, perhaps you could share clearer reports?

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:46 pm Well the report you shared referred to posts made after October 7th, which it's fair to assume is well after the show was filmed. If that's not the case, perhaps you could share clearer reports?

Clearly the tweets were made after filming of the main series, and it's not reasonable for the whole series to be pulled.

However, filming of this season's shows is not complete. The BBC realised there was a potential problem relating to the tweets and sent Asif Munaf on "specialised training". It did no good and he continued to tweet, resulting in his non-appearance on "You're Fired" last night.

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:42 pm Secondly, I've only seen his tweets about Zionism. Did he also tweet anti-semitic stuff?

To me, anti-zionism and anti-semitism are much the same thing, so examples of the former are usually examples of the latter. You think anti-zionism and anti-semitism are different, which is fair enough, we'll have to disagree on that point.

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:04 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:42 pm Secondly, I've only seen his tweets about Zionism. Did he also tweet anti-semitic stuff?

To me, anti-zionism and anti-semitism are much the same thing, so examples of the former are usually examples of the latter. You think anti-zionism and anti-semitism are different, which is fair enough, we'll have to disagree on that point.

It's far too important a distinction. Israel, and it's supporters, has been working very hard to convince anyone who'd listen that anti-zionism and anti-semitism are the same but they aren't. If it's accepted that the 2 are the same then criticism of the Israeli Government will become unacceptable/illegal and that must not happen.

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:11 pm If it's accepted that the 2 are the same then criticism of the Israeli Government will become unacceptable/illegal and that must not happen.

Criticism of a government illegal? How, exactly?

I don't see any reason not to be critical of the Israeli government where that criticism is justified.

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:04 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:42 pm Secondly, I've only seen his tweets about Zionism. Did he also tweet anti-semitic stuff?

To me, anti-zionism and anti-semitism are much the same thing, so examples of the former are usually examples of the latter. You think anti-zionism and anti-semitism are different, which is fair enough, we'll have to disagree on that point.

You can disagree on that point, but bonio is right and you’re wrong.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:23 pm Saying a bloke's tweets made after filming had already taken place is evidence of "more antisemitism at the BBC" is a stretch, even for you. Unless you think they should have pulled the whole series once they became aware?

I was on a BBC programme years ago, if I write something objectionable on social media now is it still their fault?

Pointless comment

Looks like the BBC might be binning off Lineker

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 23754.html

Next scandal incoming...

Evans probably just wanted to compare Katya to his ex-wife

If she's been forced into that video apology though.

Oooff. I know someone whose work is quite reliant on this guy, and he is having kittens currently

I don’t get what the joke was.

Who are they? I take it the woman is the pro dancer and chubbs is the celebrity?