Re: C**t's. The definitive into the sea with 'em thread.
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:18 am
I don't mind Ed Sheeran.
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Neither did the tories, that’s the point, surely? They could have prevented lots of the things they enabled.
You are very naive. They were the minority in govt, yet got through policies like the pupil premium to help disadvantaged kids and families. Without a majority stake, they couldn't enforce everything.oxo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:32 amNeither did the tories, that’s the point, surely? They could have prevented lots of the things they enabled.
If you run on a pledge of phasing out tuition fees and then, once in power, vote to triple them, people will rightly criticise you and lose trust in you.
They also supported loads of austerity measures that they could have blocked, including changed to disability benefits, bedroom tax etc.
The tories are obviously worse,but the LDs enabled them all too willingly in my opinion, and I think the subsequent slump in support/relevance is deserved.
Is it possible for you to make your point without getting personal?ChorizO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:07 pmYou are very naive. They were the minority in govt, yet got through policies like the pupil premium to help disadvantaged kids and families. Without a majority stake, they couldn't enforce everything.oxo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:32 amNeither did the tories, that’s the point, surely? They could have prevented lots of the things they enabled.
If you run on a pledge of phasing out tuition fees and then, once in power, vote to triple them, people will rightly criticise you and lose trust in you.
They also supported loads of austerity measures that they could have blocked, including changed to disability benefits, bedroom tax etc.
The tories are obviously worse,but the LDs enabled them all too willingly in my opinion, and I think the subsequent slump in support/relevance is deserved.
You really do not understand politics and coalitions do you.
There’s not many on here who would give an inch in accepting even a hint of an alternative point of view. The default often seems to be personal abuse and or name calling when views are expressed. Personally I think that anyone who disagrees with me is an ignorant, incorrigible, tos*er but hey ho.oxo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:45 pmIs it possible for you to make your point without getting personal?ChorizO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:07 pmYou are very naive. They were the minority in govt, yet got through policies like the pupil premium to help disadvantaged kids and families. Without a majority stake, they couldn't enforce everything.oxo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:32 am
Neither did the tories, that’s the point, surely? They could have prevented lots of the things they enabled.
If you run on a pledge of phasing out tuition fees and then, once in power, vote to triple them, people will rightly criticise you and lose trust in you.
They also supported loads of austerity measures that they could have blocked, including changed to disability benefits, bedroom tax etc.
The tories are obviously worse,but the LDs enabled them all too willingly in my opinion, and I think the subsequent slump in support/relevance is deserved.
You really do not understand politics and coalitions do you.
As it happens, I would say I am somewhat naive, yes, and my understanding of UK politics is, I think, above average but definitely lacking.
It doesn’t necessarily make me wrong, though — ultimately I think they put political self-interest before their principles and should have made fewer compromises with regard to austerity in particular.