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Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:37 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
He'll be okish in the squad this season, but that second year of his contract will be an albatross.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:26 am
by Disoriented
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:37 pm He'll be okish in the squad this season, but that second year of his contract will be an albatross.
I fear the squawking has begun already fella.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:44 am
by BiggsyMalone
He’a clearly carrying an injury and isn’t being given time to fully recover because he’s the captain and Happe and Ekpiteta aren’t trusted to play alongside eachother. Once Turley is back, he’ll be given some rest. I’d look at Ling, Widdowson and Ekpiteta’s form before Coulson at the moment

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:29 am
by Chief crazy horse
Thor wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:06 pm In the match day thread some people are having a pop at coulson, just by coincidence I was watching him closely today as he’s not been the dominating defender he was of last year.

The pace of the game is quicker and pace isn’t his strongest point.
His heading today I thought was good and he was especially in the 2nd half getting to headers that he might not have had a right to get to.
His distribution was ok, no real wonky passes and made good choices on who to lay it off to

I thought he did ok overall.

However, I believe that he is carrying an injury or something else. In the 2nd half he seemed to be struggling with his right leg, possibly hamstring, but it was clear he was not comfortable nor running well. However, at this point we had no subs left and he carried on.

Putting it in to context and some have possibly been over critical, I think he’s carrying an injury which is stopping him getting to full fitness, it’s his importance and leadership which is possibly overriding the physical condition right now.

He will come good again, that I’m convinced of after watching him carefully today.
I'm not so sure about that last sentence. He also failed to clear his lines properly for their third goal. Having said that the whole defence needs looking at closely. It's a shambles and I hope priority is given in the thought process when selecting the new manager.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:53 am
by Still's Carenae
I thought Coulson looked much happier in the 2nd half today, playing on his natural side.

Happe reads the game better than Marvin and this helps Coulson out as well.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:16 am
by Buddy Manucci
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:32 pm
Buddy Manucci wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:27 pm Would have waited to see how he deals with being back in the league.
Come on, Josh is easily League two standard if not better .
We definately should have waited.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:35 am
by gshaw
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:44 am He’a clearly carrying an injury and isn’t being given time to fully recover because he’s the captain and Happe and Ekpiteta aren’t trusted to play alongside eachother. Once Turley is back, he’ll be given some rest. I’d look at Ling, Widdowson and Ekpiteta’s form before Coulson at the moment
I think you're right with this. Like many in the squad he hasn't looked right from the off. That last clearance looked more like he couldn't physically make the big hoof required.

Too many players being forced into playing in an unfit state because of our lack of squad depth.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:54 am
by BIGRON
Only my opinion but I don't think Josh is the9 player he once was , last week at Colchester he was left for dead when their player went passed him and crossed for the opening goal , yesterday he could have done better with the third goal when he failed to clear the ball , struggling in this league in my opinion .

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:57 am
by Disoriented
BIGRON wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:54 am Only my opinion but I don't think Josh is the9 player he once was , last week at Colchester he was left for dead when their player went passed him and crossed for the opening goal , yesterday he could have done better with the third goal when he failed to clear the ball , struggling in this league in my opinion .
Sad but fair Ron.

Maybe he has been carrying a niggling injury and just needs some time to shake it off though.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:58 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
So, so wrong.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:00 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Chief crazy horse wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:29 am
Thor wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:06 pm In the match day thread some people are having a pop at coulson, just by coincidence I was watching him closely today as he’s not been the dominating defender he was of last year.

The pace of the game is quicker and pace isn’t his strongest point.
His heading today I thought was good and he was especially in the 2nd half getting to headers that he might not have had a right to get to.
His distribution was ok, no real wonky passes and made good choices on who to lay it off to

I thought he did ok overall.

However, I believe that he is carrying an injury or something else. In the 2nd half he seemed to be struggling with his right leg, possibly hamstring, but it was clear he was not comfortable nor running well. However, at this point we had no subs left and he carried on.

Putting it in to context and some have possibly been over critical, I think he’s carrying an injury which is stopping him getting to full fitness, it’s his importance and leadership which is possibly overriding the physical condition right now.

He will come good again, that I’m convinced of after watching him carefully today.
I'm not so sure about that last sentence. He also failed to clear his lines properly for their third goal. Having said that the whole defence needs looking at closely. It's a shambles and I hope priority is given in the thought process when selecting the new manager.
I agree . Going forward we're fine but our defence is proving to be our Achilles heel .

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:07 pm
by Disoriented
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:00 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:29 am
Thor wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:06 pm In the match day thread some people are having a pop at coulson, just by coincidence I was watching him closely today as he’s not been the dominating defender he was of last year.

The pace of the game is quicker and pace isn’t his strongest point.
His heading today I thought was good and he was especially in the 2nd half getting to headers that he might not have had a right to get to.
His distribution was ok, no real wonky passes and made good choices on who to lay it off to

I thought he did ok overall.

However, I believe that he is carrying an injury or something else. In the 2nd half he seemed to be struggling with his right leg, possibly hamstring, but it was clear he was not comfortable nor running well. However, at this point we had no subs left and he carried on.

Putting it in to context and some have possibly been over critical, I think he’s carrying an injury which is stopping him getting to full fitness, it’s his importance and leadership which is possibly overriding the physical condition right now.

He will come good again, that I’m convinced of after watching him carefully today.
I'm not so sure about that last sentence. He also failed to clear his lines properly for their third goal. Having said that the whole defence needs looking at closely. It's a shambles and I hope priority is given in the thought process when selecting the new manager.
I agree . Going forward we're fine but our defence is proving to be our Achilles heel .
Absolutely. Scoring goals is not a problem.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:26 pm
by Thor
We have scored 1 less than the top team. However, we have conceded the most.

We defended well from the front last season, our midfield was more effective and dare I say it we miss Charlie Lee or at least his early season form.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:35 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Our defensive issues are not (solely) down to the 4 or 5 individual that play in defence.

People do understand that, right?

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:55 pm
by Fisch
RedO wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:35 pm Our defensive issues are not (solely) down to the 4 or 5 individual that play in defence.

People do understand that, right?
I make you right, there's either an organisational issue or individuals are losing concentration.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:30 pm
by LeighO
Thor wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:26 pm We have scored 1 less than the top team. However, we have conceded the most.

We defended well from the front last season, our midfield was more effective and dare I say it we miss Charlie Lee or at least his early season form.
I was thinking yesterday how much we miss Bonne defending corners and free kicks; he won so many defensive headers.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:53 pm
by bobo66
Still's Carenae wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:53 am I thought Coulson looked much happier in the 2nd half today, playing on his natural side.

Happe reads the game better than Marvin and this helps Coulson out as well.
Of course he was happier in the second half because he wasn't having to withstand wave after wave of dangerous Port Vale attacks, nothing to do with which side of defence he was playing. There are too many defensive errors for which we are being punished and Coulson is as responsible as any of the others are for those.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:24 pm
by Chief crazy horse
LeighO wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:30 pm
Thor wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:26 pm We have scored 1 less than the top team. However, we have conceded the most.

We defended well from the front last season, our midfield was more effective and dare I say it we miss Charlie Lee or at least his early season form.
I was thinking yesterday how much we miss Bonne defending corners and free kicks; he won so many defensive headers.
......... 😊

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:39 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
gshaw wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:35 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:44 am He’a clearly carrying an injury and isn’t being given time to fully recover because he’s the captain and Happe and Ekpiteta aren’t trusted to play alongside eachother. Once Turley is back, he’ll be given some rest. I’d look at Ling, Widdowson and Ekpiteta’s form before Coulson at the moment
I think you're right with this. Like many in the squad he hasn't looked right from the off. That last clearance looked more like he couldn't physically make the big hoof required.

Too many players being forced into playing in an unfit state because of our lack of squad depth.
If Coulson needed to recover from an injury we could have played 4-4-2 or Widdowson or Marsh could have covered if absolutely set on five at the back. Not sure we can harp on about squad depth here when we have four orthodox centre backs and while one is injured a formation change to a back four, which has worked better anyway, would have alleviated that.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:38 pm
by Still's Carenae
bobo66 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:53 pm
Still's Carenae wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:53 am I thought Coulson looked much happier in the 2nd half today, playing on his natural side.

Happe reads the game better than Marvin and this helps Coulson out as well.
Of course he was happier in the second half because he wasn't having to withstand wave after wave of dangerous Port Vale attacks, nothing to do with which side of defence he was playing. There are too many defensive errors for which we are being punished and Coulson is as responsible as any of the others are for those.
Ok. I shall rephrase. Coulson was more comfortable on the right side of defence.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:41 pm
by Long slender neck
Coulson has always been a bit lumbering, a bit like Nathan Clarke was. I think when the confidence is low he loses that extra yard.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:03 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:39 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:35 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:44 am He’a clearly carrying an injury and isn’t being given time to fully recover because he’s the captain and Happe and Ekpiteta aren’t trusted to play alongside eachother. Once Turley is back, he’ll be given some rest. I’d look at Ling, Widdowson and Ekpiteta’s form before Coulson at the moment
I think you're right with this. Like many in the squad he hasn't looked right from the off. That last clearance looked more like he couldn't physically make the big hoof required.

Too many players being forced into playing in an unfit state because of our lack of squad depth.
If Coulson needed to recover from an injury we could have played 4-4-2 or Widdowson or Marsh could have covered if absolutely set on five at the back. Not sure we can harp on about squad depth here when we have four orthodox centre backs and while one is injured a formation change to a back four, which has worked better anyway, would have alleviated that.
Ross has chopped and changed between 4 and 5 at the back. He's playing because of his leadership. Happe and Ekpiteta aren't trusted to play together.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:49 pm
by LittleMate
LeighO wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:30 pm
Thor wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:26 pm We have scored 1 less than the top team. However, we have conceded the most.

We defended well from the front last season, our midfield was more effective and dare I say it we miss Charlie Lee or at least his early season form.
I was thinking yesterday how much we miss Bonne defending corners and free kicks; he won so many defensive headers.
Agreed he did, but that's not been a factor. Bonne guarded the near post (which Wilko has been doing recently) - but the oppo have worked out that all they have to do is float it in 8 yards out and chaos is guaranteed. We are not strong enough to clear it and Brill would not travel that far for a bite to eat.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:14 pm
by gshaw
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:39 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:35 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:44 am He’a clearly carrying an injury and isn’t being given time to fully recover because he’s the captain and Happe and Ekpiteta aren’t trusted to play alongside eachother. Once Turley is back, he’ll be given some rest. I’d look at Ling, Widdowson and Ekpiteta’s form before Coulson at the moment
I think you're right with this. Like many in the squad he hasn't looked right from the off. That last clearance looked more like he couldn't physically make the big hoof required.

Too many players being forced into playing in an unfit state because of our lack of squad depth.
If Coulson needed to recover from an injury we could have played 4-4-2 or Widdowson or Marsh could have covered if absolutely set on five at the back. Not sure we can harp on about squad depth here when we have four orthodox centre backs and while one is injured a formation change to a back four, which has worked better anyway, would have alleviated that.
To play 4-4-2 we'd have to go with Ekpiteta and Happe but there seems a reluctance to take that gamble on a young pairing, even if the only other option is an unfit (but experienced) Coulson

If you're referring to Turley as the 4th he'd be playing RB if fit imo. If it's seen as too early for Ogie an experienced loan CB signing until end of the season would give us more options. Possibly financed by letting Judd go as he's well down the pecking order once Turley comes back (barring a new manager dropping Ling but unlikely for one reason or another).

More likely though I see Ekpiteta leaving in January for a nominal fee rather than going on a free in summer, with a well-travelled pro coming in to take his place.

Re: Josh Coulson

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:31 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
The crumb of comfort with Ekpiteta is that his form might make him more willing to sign an extension.