Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:42 am

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:19 am People are only entitled to views if you don’t consider those views vile?

I mean, I don’t want Southend to fold, but a fan of a rival club being a bit dim and extending the rivalry to laughing at a club’s dire mismanagement might be stupid but it’s not exactly grossly offensive, is it?

Let me clarify,there views are not vile but the way they phrase them is imo. The way you have put it in my view is acceptable but the phrase “die die die” is a little strong imo

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:41 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:42 am

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:19 am People are only entitled to views if you don’t consider those views vile?

I mean, I don’t want Southend to fold, but a fan of a rival club being a bit dim and extending the rivalry to laughing at a club’s dire mismanagement might be stupid but it’s not exactly grossly offensive, is it?

Let me clarify,there views are not vile but the way they phrase them is imo. The way you have put it in my view is acceptable but the phrase “die die die” is a little strong imo

''the phrase “die die die” is a little strong imo''
Very nasty, inconsiderate and rather childish thing to say, especially so after the trauma of what the Leyton Orient club, their players and supporters went through when the club nearly folded up just a few years ago. Long established football clubs going out of business is happening too often now, same thing also happening to old established companies, so awful for all those affected, losing their jobs etc, nothing to poke fun at.

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:12 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:41 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:42 am

Let me clarify,there views are not vile but the way they phrase them is imo. The way you have put it in my view is acceptable but the phrase “die die die” is a little strong imo

''the phrase “die die die” is a little strong imo''
Very nasty, inconsiderate and rather childish thing to say, especially so after the trauma of what the Leyton Orient club, their players and supporters went through when the club nearly folded up just a few years ago. Long established football clubs going out of business is happening too often now, same thing also happening to old established companies, so awful for all those affected, losing their jobs etc, nothing to poke fun at.

It is about the 10th stay of execution in the last 10 years or so . Southend fans have only seemed bothered the last 2 or 3 . Strange lot .

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:21 am

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:12 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:41 am

''the phrase “die die die” is a little strong imo''
Very nasty, inconsiderate and rather childish thing to say, especially so after the trauma of what the Leyton Orient club, their players and supporters went through when the club nearly folded up just a few years ago. Long established football clubs going out of business is happening too often now, same thing also happening to old established companies, so awful for all those affected, losing their jobs etc, nothing to poke fun at.

It is about the 10th stay of execution in the last 10 years or so . Southend fans have only seemed bothered the last 2 or 3 . Strange lot .

I dont know about that but perhaps after living on the edge for so long they may have thought the crisis could somehow be resolved in time. No matter, hope springs eternal and hope the club does not go out of business altogether.

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:35 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:21 am

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:12 am

It is about the 10th stay of execution in the last 10 years or so . Southend fans have only seemed bothered the last 2 or 3 . Strange lot .

I dont know about that but perhaps after living on the edge for so long they may have thought the crisis could somehow be resolved in time. No matter, hope springs eternal and hope the club does not go out of business altogether.

I Seem to rember a pending case when we played them in the southern section final , however long ago that was . Youd think supporters would have organised prolonged protests after 2 or 3 scrapes with the tax man . How many chances did they want ?

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:53 pm

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:35 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:21 am

I dont know about that but perhaps after living on the edge for so long they may have thought the crisis could somehow be resolved in time. No matter, hope springs eternal and hope the club does not go out of business altogether.

I Seem to rember a pending case when we played them in the southern section final , however long ago that was . Youd think supporters would have organised prolonged protests after 2 or 3 scrapes with the tax man . How many chances did they want ?

That’s true it’s just a shame for the loyal supporters,it’s also good from a social aspect, gets people out at weekends but your only going to like you said “ get so many chances “

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:48 amlol

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:04 pm Hard to say what his actual motive is? Can’t be money? Does he own the ground? Can’t understand why he just doesn’t sell up

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:33 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:04 pm Hard to say what his actual motive is? Can’t be money? Does he own the ground? Can’t understand why he just doesn’t sell up

He's sold Roots Hall to Sainsburys as long as Southend get there "New Stadium" , . If Southend die He doesnt have to build &walks off with £ 10 Million ! Never Trust a Tax Dodger .

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:49 pm

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:33 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:04 pm Hard to say what his actual motive is? Can’t be money? Does he own the ground? Can’t understand why he just doesn’t sell up

He's sold Roots Hall to Sainsburys as long as Southend get there "New Stadium" , . If Southend die He doesnt have to build &walks off with £ 10 Million ! Never Trust a Tax Dodger .

Thanks for the info so Ron Martin is to blame for the dramatic rise in food prices then LOL cheers

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:55 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:49 pm

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:33 pm

He's sold Roots Hall to Sainsburys as long as Southend get there "New Stadium" , . If Southend die He doesnt have to build &walks off with £ 10 Million ! Never Trust a Tax Dodger .

Thanks for the info so Ron Martin is to blame for the dramatic rise in food prices then LOL cheers

What ?

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:20 pm

Equaliser0 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:55 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:49 pm

Thanks for the info so Ron Martin is to blame for the dramatic rise in food prices then LOL cheers

What ?

It was a joke about the food prices so you mean to tell me if it doesn’t get built it’s a win for him?

Milano wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:13 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:48 amlol

The fact that you don't get it says a fair bit about your ethics, upbringing and humanity. Standing by and failing to challenge anti-social behaviour is perhaps the bigger crime and is a significant cause of social instability. I hope you're in a small minority.

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:51 pm

Milano wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:13 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:48 amlol

The fact that you don't get it says a fair bit about your ethics, upbringing and humanity. Standing by and failing to challenge anti-social behaviour is perhaps the bigger crime and is a significant cause of social instability. I hope you're in a small minority.

I’m in a small minority of people in this thread with a sense of perspective

EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:15 am The latest episode

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66206370

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:51 pm

Milano wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:13 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:48 amlol

The fact that you don't get it says a fair bit about your ethics, upbringing and humanity. Standing by and failing to challenge anti-social behaviour is perhaps the bigger crime and is a significant cause of social instability. I hope you're in a small minority.

I’m in a small minority of people in this thread with a sense of perspective

Stowaway wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:30 pm Ron Martin has been taking the absolute p**s out of SUFC for what seems like decades now. They’ve been a basket case for as long as I can remember, and it’s clear he’s only in it for what he can get out of it (sound familiar, anyone?) but it may be that he’d got himself in too deep to get out of it. If he does let the club go bust and he walks away with £10m then I hope he gets himself some bulletproof knee guards.

moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:37 am

EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:15 am The latest episode

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66206370

To cancel a friendly game at this stage of the of pre season is a worry.. Is it because they cannot field a team because of injuries I doubt it or is it because they were planning a demonstration against Ron Martin and he called it off.I cannot see the National League letting this go by as they start the season games in 3 weeks. They do not have enough contracted players to fulfil the NL requirements.Real Sha

CEB wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:39 amDie die die