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Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:14 pm
by Disoriented
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:07 pm Very disappointed in the Ireland performance today. Laying down to their historical colonial oppressors is not usually their style.

Never mind plenty of scope for England to crumble tomorrow.
Finest capitulation since Cromwell invaded.

Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:34 pm
by tuffers#1
Flying Hippo wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:07 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:19 pm Still they may mostly be protestant school educated & therefore trapped in the "Foreign game " Ethos.
As you know, there are no "protestant schools" in Northern Ireland. There are state schools open to all. The apartheid in education there is the sole preserve of the Roman Catholic church. For what it's worth, eight of the 11 in the test match are indeed Ulster protestants, with five of them, remarkably, from small villages along the Co. Donegal/Londonderry border. One is a Dublin protestant, one is English and the other, a fine player, is a southern catholic - and there are plenty of other good players from his background who'll be playing test cricket in the years ahead. So what? Who cares? They're all representing Ireland.

Considerable intellectual tautology is also required when condoning the GAA's approach to anything at all. Great games they are but, despite the commendable efforts of some in their organisation, it is clear that the GAA still has considerable work to do before the majority of people in Northern Ireland are persuaded that many GAA clubs in NI are not the hateful dens of bigotry many believe them to be (as is Celtic FC in Scotland, with additional institutional child-abuse, of course). What the protestant Graham family in Fermanagh and the catholic Heffrons in Co Antrim endured from their experience with GAA are tragedies, particularly for the Heffrons. It is surely time to leave this religious/nationalist obscenity behind.
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Cork conn rugby club named after a newspaper :

In its second incarnation, the Cork Constitution supported the union of Ireland with Great Britain, was the paper favoured by the Protestant population and patronised by clergymen of the Church of Ireland as well by officers of the British Army who were stationed in the area.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indepe ... 42724.html

President Mary McAleese and her husband Martin are strong Catholics. Yet they have chosen to transfer their son from the Catholic all boys Belvedere College, to the co-educational Kings Hospital in Palmerstown which is rooted in the Protestant tradition. 


Cricket in Ireland

Cricket was introduced to Ireland by the British, probably during the 18th century, and the earliest known reference is a 1792 match in Dublin between the British garrison and an "All-Ireland" team, the garrison team winning by an innings.

Cricket was being played in the towns of Kilkenny and Ballinasloe in the early 19th century. In the 1830s, the game began to drop down.

Cricket is predominantly played in the Republic by those who would have attended
Protestant irish schools ( church of ireland ) , these schools would have been rich in rugby
& cricket tradition.

As for all your other vitriolic bluster about the north, uslter , gaa & hatred , did you ever think that i was just pointing out the mixed traditions of irish sport.

The fact that Rugby Union has established itself so widely & so quickly shows how great a game it is.

Cricket on the other hand is sh*t .
Whether Irishmen play it or not i will never support it because it is Sh*t.

You win world cups by drawing a game twice .
All because you did less running in getting your runs than the other team.
😁.

Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:43 pm
by Disoriented
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:34 pm
Flying Hippo wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:07 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:19 pm Still they may mostly be protestant school educated & therefore trapped in the "Foreign game " Ethos.
As you know, there are no "protestant schools" in Northern Ireland. There are state schools open to all. The apartheid in education there is the sole preserve of the Roman Catholic church. For what it's worth, eight of the 11 in the test match are indeed Ulster protestants, with five of them, remarkably, from small villages along the Co. Donegal/Londonderry border. One is a Dublin protestant, one is English and the other, a fine player, is a southern catholic - and there are plenty of other good players from his background who'll be playing test cricket in the years ahead. So what? Who cares? They're all representing Ireland.

Considerable intellectual tautology is also required when condoning the GAA's approach to anything at all. Great games they are but, despite the commendable efforts of some in their organisation, it is clear that the GAA still has considerable work to do before the majority of people in Northern Ireland are persuaded that many GAA clubs in NI are not the hateful dens of bigotry many believe them to be (as is Celtic FC in Scotland, with additional institutional child-abuse, of course). What the protestant Graham family in Fermanagh and the catholic Heffrons in Co Antrim endured from their experience with GAA are tragedies, particularly for the Heffrons. It is surely time to leave this religious/nationalist obscenity behind.
** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **


Cork conn rugby club named after a newspaper :

In its second incarnation, the Cork Constitution supported the union of Ireland with Great Britain, was the paper favoured by the Protestant population and patronised by clergymen of the Church of Ireland as well by officers of the British Army who were stationed in the area.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indepe ... 42724.html

President Mary McAleese and her husband Martin are strong Catholics. Yet they have chosen to transfer their son from the Catholic all boys Belvedere College, to the co-educational Kings Hospital in Palmerstown which is rooted in the Protestant tradition. 


Cricket in Ireland

Cricket was introduced to Ireland by the British, probably during the 18th century, and the earliest known reference is a 1792 match in Dublin between the British garrison and an "All-Ireland" team, the garrison team winning by an innings.

Cricket was being played in the towns of Kilkenny and Ballinasloe in the early 19th century. In the 1830s, the game began to drop down.

Cricket is predominantly played in the Republic by those who would have attended
Protestant irish schools ( church of ireland ) , these schools would have been rich in rugby
& cricket tradition.

As for all your other vitriolic bluster about the north, uslter , gaa & hatred , did you ever think that i was just pointing out the mixed traditions of irish sport.

The fact that Rugby Union has established itself so widely & so quickly shows how great a game it is.

Cricket on the other hand is sh*t .
Whether Irishmen play it or not i will never support it because it is Sh*t.

You win world cups by drawing a game twice .
All because you did less running in getting your runs than the other team.
😁.
For someone who doesn’t like cricket, you seem remarkably obsessed with the subject.

Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:50 pm
by tuffers#1
Disoriented wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:43 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:34 pm
Flying Hippo wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:07 pm

As you know, there are no "protestant schools" in Northern Ireland. There are state schools open to all. The apartheid in education there is the sole preserve of the Roman Catholic church. For what it's worth, eight of the 11 in the test match are indeed Ulster protestants, with five of them, remarkably, from small villages along the Co. Donegal/Londonderry border. One is a Dublin protestant, one is English and the other, a fine player, is a southern catholic - and there are plenty of other good players from his background who'll be playing test cricket in the years ahead. So what? Who cares? They're all representing Ireland.

Considerable intellectual tautology is also required when condoning the GAA's approach to anything at all. Great games they are but, despite the commendable efforts of some in their organisation, it is clear that the GAA still has considerable work to do before the majority of people in Northern Ireland are persuaded that many GAA clubs in NI are not the hateful dens of bigotry many believe them to be (as is Celtic FC in Scotland, with additional institutional child-abuse, of course). What the protestant Graham family in Fermanagh and the catholic Heffrons in Co Antrim endured from their experience with GAA are tragedies, particularly for the Heffrons. It is surely time to leave this religious/nationalist obscenity behind.
** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **


Cork conn rugby club named after a newspaper :

In its second incarnation, the Cork Constitution supported the union of Ireland with Great Britain, was the paper favoured by the Protestant population and patronised by clergymen of the Church of Ireland as well by officers of the British Army who were stationed in the area.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indepe ... 42724.html

President Mary McAleese and her husband Martin are strong Catholics. Yet they have chosen to transfer their son from the Catholic all boys Belvedere College, to the co-educational Kings Hospital in Palmerstown which is rooted in the Protestant tradition. 


Cricket in Ireland

Cricket was introduced to Ireland by the British, probably during the 18th century, and the earliest known reference is a 1792 match in Dublin between the British garrison and an "All-Ireland" team, the garrison team winning by an innings.

Cricket was being played in the towns of Kilkenny and Ballinasloe in the early 19th century. In the 1830s, the game began to drop down.

Cricket is predominantly played in the Republic by those who would have attended
Protestant irish schools ( church of ireland ) , these schools would have been rich in rugby
& cricket tradition.

As for all your other vitriolic bluster about the north, uslter , gaa & hatred , did you ever think that i was just pointing out the mixed traditions of irish sport.

The fact that Rugby Union has established itself so widely & so quickly shows how great a game it is.

Cricket on the other hand is sh*t .
Whether Irishmen play it or not i will never support it because it is Sh*t.

You win world cups by drawing a game twice .
All because you did less running in getting your runs than the other team.
😁.
For someone who doesn’t like cricket, you seem remarkably obsessed with the subject.
Nope im afraid you have misread me again Dis .

Im obsessed with Ireland & being Irish .

Cricket in Ireland is like an apple with a worm in it .
Spoiled & unpalatable

Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:51 pm
by Disoriented
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:50 pm
Disoriented wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:43 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:34 pm
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Cork conn rugby club named after a newspaper :

In its second incarnation, the Cork Constitution supported the union of Ireland with Great Britain, was the paper favoured by the Protestant population and patronised by clergymen of the Church of Ireland as well by officers of the British Army who were stationed in the area.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indepe ... 42724.html

President Mary McAleese and her husband Martin are strong Catholics. Yet they have chosen to transfer their son from the Catholic all boys Belvedere College, to the co-educational Kings Hospital in Palmerstown which is rooted in the Protestant tradition. 


Cricket in Ireland

Cricket was introduced to Ireland by the British, probably during the 18th century, and the earliest known reference is a 1792 match in Dublin between the British garrison and an "All-Ireland" team, the garrison team winning by an innings.

Cricket was being played in the towns of Kilkenny and Ballinasloe in the early 19th century. In the 1830s, the game began to drop down.

Cricket is predominantly played in the Republic by those who would have attended
Protestant irish schools ( church of ireland ) , these schools would have been rich in rugby
& cricket tradition.

As for all your other vitriolic bluster about the north, uslter , gaa & hatred , did you ever think that i was just pointing out the mixed traditions of irish sport.

The fact that Rugby Union has established itself so widely & so quickly shows how great a game it is.

Cricket on the other hand is sh*t .
Whether Irishmen play it or not i will never support it because it is Sh*t.

You win world cups by drawing a game twice .
All because you did less running in getting your runs than the other team.
😁.
For someone who doesn’t like cricket, you seem remarkably obsessed with the subject.
Nope im afraid you have misread me again Dis .

Im obsessed with Ireland & being Irish .

Cricket in Ireland is like an apple with a worm in it .
Spoiled & unedible .
Why don’t you start a hurling thread then? Should be fascinating.

Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:56 pm
by tuffers#1
Because its a Leyton Orient board.

I dont see the point of discussing cricket on here but as some O's fans
Love the game why should i deny them.

You seem very keen for an argument with someone dis .

Wont be with me though poppet .

Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:57 pm
by Disoriented
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:56 pm Because its a Leyton Orient board.

I dont see the point of discussing cricket on here but as some O's fans
Love the game why should i deny them.

You seem very keen for an argument with someone dis .

Wont be with me though poppet .
Not at all Tiffers. Would have welcomed your thoughts on a fine Irish sport.

Re: Test match

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:09 pm
by tuffers#1
Disoriented wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:57 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:56 pm Because its a Leyton Orient board.

I dont see the point of discussing cricket on here but as some O's fans
Love the game why should i deny them.

You seem very keen for an argument with someone dis .

Wont be with me though poppet .
Not at all Tiffers. Would have welcomed your thoughts on a fine Irish sport.
Quality tactics
Trying to annoy someone by misspelling their username

Hurling is a Splendid game.
As is bog balling ( football ) & the far lesser known handball .
Think of the game you played at school with a wall & a tennis ball
meets squash.

If i could i'd enter poc fada every year .

Re: Test match

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:17 am
by Disoriented
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:09 pm
Disoriented wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:57 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:56 pm Because its a Leyton Orient board.

I dont see the point of discussing cricket on here but as some O's fans
Love the game why should i deny them.

You seem very keen for an argument with someone dis .

Wont be with me though poppet .
Not at all Tiffers. Would have welcomed your thoughts on a fine Irish sport.
Quality tactics
Trying to annoy someone by misspelling their username

Hurling is a Splendid game.
As is bog balling ( football ) & the far lesser known handball .
Think of the game you played at school with a wall & a tennis ball
meets squash.

If i could i'd enter poc fada every year .
Agreed - fast paced, tactical and played by gutsy competitors who only lack two things - suntans and teeth.