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Harrogate came back from 0-2 down against WimbledonChelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:31 pm Unlike some I fully understand that a 2 nil lead is deceptive, and when a team pulls one goal back the game changes and its difficult. Teams coming back to get a point from two goals down is not unusual. What annoys me more, is when we go two nil down we don't often turn it around ourselves.
Agreed, all those times we go 2-0 down and we never come back.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:31 pm What annoys me more, is when we go two nil down we don't often turn it around ourselves.
We've lost 5 times this season ffs.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:31 pm Unlike some I fully understand that a 2 nil lead is deceptive, and when a team pulls one goal back the game changes and its difficult. Teams coming back to get a point from two goals down is not unusual. What annoys me more, is when we go two nil down we don't often turn it around ourselves.
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:12 am When Kelman came on and motioned to Soteriou to go wide Ruel pulled a bit of a face and I don't blame him. What is Wellens thinking of ? The player gets two first half goals from a central position and then gets shoved out on the wing. If need be stick Kelman out wide if Ruel is doing the business. Ridiculous decision in my opinion.
Or Duke MckennaTRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:53 amChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:12 am When Kelman came on and motioned to Soteriou to go wide Ruel pulled a bit of a face and I don't blame him. What is Wellens thinking of ? The player gets two first half goals from a central position and then gets shoved out on the wing. If need be stick Kelman out wide if Ruel is doing the business. Ridiculous decision in my opinion.
We needed to replace Sadlier, the only way to do it was to brink Kelman on and push Ruel out wide.
(I guess Wellens could have put Sweeney out wide but I think he wanted to make a point of hooking him after his balls up in their goal).
I just knew you would come up with an explanation..TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:53 amChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:12 am When Kelman came on and motioned to Soteriou to go wide Ruel pulled a bit of a face and I don't blame him. What is Wellens thinking of ? The player gets two first half goals from a central position and then gets shoved out on the wing. If need be stick Kelman out wide if Ruel is doing the business. Ridiculous decision in my opinion.
We needed to replace Sadlier, the only way to do it was to brink Kelman on and push Ruel out wide.
(I guess Wellens could have put Sweeney out wide but I think he wanted to make a point of hooking him after his balls up in their goal).
so , like I said then, stick Kelman out wide, not Sotariou.I agree, would like to see more of Duke Mckenna. Unfortunately not had much of a run.Story of O wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:02 pmOr Duke MckennaTRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:53 amChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:12 am When Kelman came on and motioned to Soteriou to go wide Ruel pulled a bit of a face and I don't blame him. What is Wellens thinking of ? The player gets two first half goals from a central position and then gets shoved out on the wing. If need be stick Kelman out wide if Ruel is doing the business. Ridiculous decision in my opinion.
We needed to replace Sadlier, the only way to do it was to brink Kelman on and push Ruel out wide.
(I guess Wellens could have put Sweeney out wide but I think he wanted to make a point of hooking him after his balls up in their goal).
I think the thing with RW is that he doesn’t want to be told what to do, especially by supporters. That’s his stubborn side unfortunately but give him his due he’s got most things right this season. Think deep down he knows that Drinnan and Kelman are not up to it,but he’s not going to publicly say it. As for Ruel playing down the middle there’s no argument at the moment that he’s our better option,his confidence must be sky high,so let’s hope Wellens stubbornness doesn’t get in the wayChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 pmI just knew you would come up with an explanation..TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:53 amChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:12 am When Kelman came on and motioned to Soteriou to go wide Ruel pulled a bit of a face and I don't blame him. What is Wellens thinking of ? The player gets two first half goals from a central position and then gets shoved out on the wing. If need be stick Kelman out wide if Ruel is doing the business. Ridiculous decision in my opinion.
We needed to replace Sadlier, the only way to do it was to brink Kelman on and push Ruel out wide.
(I guess Wellens could have put Sweeney out wide but I think he wanted to make a point of hooking him after his balls up in their goal).
But Kelman absolutely isn't a wide player. He can't do what Ruel can on the ball.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 pmI just knew you would come up with an explanation..TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:53 amChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:12 am When Kelman came on and motioned to Soteriou to go wide Ruel pulled a bit of a face and I don't blame him. What is Wellens thinking of ? The player gets two first half goals from a central position and then gets shoved out on the wing. If need be stick Kelman out wide if Ruel is doing the business. Ridiculous decision in my opinion.
We needed to replace Sadlier, the only way to do it was to brink Kelman on and push Ruel out wide.
(I guess Wellens could have put Sweeney out wide but I think he wanted to make a point of hooking him after his balls up in their goal).
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:21 pm
I think the thing with RW is that he doesn’t want to be told what to do, especially by supporters. That’s his stubborn side unfortunately but give him his due he’s got most things right this season. Think deep down he knows that Drinnan and Kelman are not up to it,but he’s not going to publicly say it. As for Ruel playing down the middle there’s no argument at the moment that he’s our better option,his confidence must be sky high,so let’s hope Wellens stubbornness doesn’t get in the way
I'm pretty sure he doesn't base his team selection on the opposite of what we all suggest on here, just to be contrary.Well in none of those 5 games have we looked like getting back into the game, but I was really talking about the other 50 years I've been watching.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:34 amWe've lost 5 times this season ffs.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:31 pm Unlike some I fully understand that a 2 nil lead is deceptive, and when a team pulls one goal back the game changes and its difficult. Teams coming back to get a point from two goals down is not unusual. What annoys me more, is when we go two nil down we don't often turn it around ourselves.
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:14 pmWell in none of those 5 games have we looked like getting back into the game, but I was really talking about the other 50 years I've been watching.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:34 amWe've lost 5 times this season ffs.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:31 pm Unlike some I fully understand that a 2 nil lead is deceptive, and when a team pulls one goal back the game changes and its difficult. Teams coming back to get a point from two goals down is not unusual. What annoys me more, is when we go two nil down we don't often turn it around ourselves.
No he absolutely isn't, but it's worth taking a punt and sticking him out there (at least he's got pace) rather than sacrifice a players position who has put us 2-0 up at half time with both goals.TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:26 pmBut Kelman absolutely isn't a wide player. He can't do what Ruel can on the ball.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 pmI just knew you would come up with an explanation..TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:53 am
We needed to replace Sadlier, the only way to do it was to brink Kelman on and push Ruel out wide.
(I guess Wellens could have put Sweeney out wide but I think he wanted to make a point of hooking him after his balls up in their goal).
But Ruel's second half performance had contributed to us being pegged back to 2-2.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:43 pm No he absolutely isn't, but it's worth taking a punt and sticking him out there (at least he's got pace) rather than sacrifice a players position who has put us 2-0 up at half time with both goals.
Were we not calling for a manager to have control, get the players he wants play the players he wants etc . Fans being fickle is 1 thing, this is just laughable now .Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:21 pmI think the thing with RW is that he doesn’t want to be told what to do, especially by supporters. That’s his stubborn side unfortunately but give him his due he’s got most things right this season. Think deep down he knows that Drinnan and Kelman are not up to it,but he’s not going to publicly say it. As for Ruel playing down the middle there’s no argument at the moment that he’s our better option,his confidence must be sky high,so let’s hope Wellens stubbornness doesn’t get in the wayChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 pmI just knew you would come up with an explanation..TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:53 am
We needed to replace Sadlier, the only way to do it was to brink Kelman on and push Ruel out wide.
(I guess Wellens could have put Sweeney out wide but I think he wanted to make a point of hooking him after his balls up in their goal).