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Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:07 pm**

I walked away from the ground surrounded by them. I didn't see any problems at all. They were singing, fairly accurately, "2-0 and you fecked it up" but that was about as bad as it got. Some of our 13 year olds were baiting them from the opposite side of the High Road. Much ado about nothing.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:08 pm**

In response to the thread title & ignoring all the garbage posts in-between: they have condemned what happened. But not exactly apologised

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:13 pm**

All caps - that’ll help!

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:32 pm**

We will cooperate with Orient should there be any further investigations...but can't be arsed looking into it ourselves, despite us being the ones more able to identity people and having their when they purchased tickets etc

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:35 pm**

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Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:43 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:32 pm We will cooperate with Orient should there be any further investigations...but can't be arsed looking into it ourselves, despite us being the ones more able to identity people and having their when they purchased tickets etc

What Crime has been Committed ?

A crass bad taste song but nothing criminal ?

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:49 pm**

I know a couple of Colchester fans , they reckon they were allowed to sit where they liked yesterday so no way of matching tickets to seating areas

they also condemned their fellow supporters for abusing Justin .

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:54 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:32 pm We will cooperate with Orient should there be any further investigations...but can't be arsed looking into it ourselves, despite us being the ones more able to identity people and having their when they purchased tickets etc

Exactly. Like they looked into their 'fans' ripping out seats at Ipswich earlier this season. Hope they get relegated and enjoy their Essex Derby at Rots Hell.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:57 pm**

Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:08 pm In response to the thread title & ignoring all the garbage posts in-between: they have condemned what happened. But not exactly apologised

Are clubs meant to apologise for songs of bad taste by Idiot fans ? Every club in the country needs to start rolling on this then !

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:15 pm**

BIGRON wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:49 pm I know a couple of Colchester fans , they reckon they were allowed to sit where they liked yesterday so no way of matching tickets to seating areas they also condemned their fellow supporters for abusing Justin .

All away tickers are unallocated now Big Ron. So first come first served

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:31 pm**

Perhaps no action was taken yesterday as, the stewards/Plod may not even be aware who JE is?

Just because you're a steward, doesn't mean you know anything about LOFC, and ditto Plod - it's just some overtime for them probably

Notwithstanding, chanting about such things shows zero class and is in horrendous poor taste. The sad thing is I can't even say I'm surprised- the vast majority of fans of all clubs are of course decent people, but the elements that aren't are lobotomised primates. Liverpool fans (for example) are still chanting about the Munich disaster which was now 65 years ago. No doubt Man U fans chant about the Hillsboro dead. You can't fix stupid.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:48 pm**

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:31 pm Perhaps no action was taken yesterday as, the stewards/Plod may not even be aware who JE is?

Just because you're a steward, doesn't mean you know anything about LOFC, and ditto Plod - it's just some overtime for them probably

Notwithstanding, chanting about such things shows zero class and is in horrendous poor taste. The sad thing is I can't even say I'm surprised- the vast majority of fans of all clubs are of course decent people, but the elements that aren't are lobotomised primates. Liverpool fans (for example) are still chanting about the Munich disaster which was now 65 years ago. No doubt Man U fans chant about the Hillsboro dead. You can't fix stupid.

O's fans abusing the Fulham "Rent Boy " Song amongst others that have been sung. we arent an Innocent Party in bad taste chants .

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:10 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:48 pm
Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:31 pm Perhaps no action was taken yesterday as, the stewards/Plod may not even be aware who JE is?

Just because you're a steward, doesn't mean you know anything about LOFC, and ditto Plod - it's just some overtime for them probably

Notwithstanding, chanting about such things shows zero class and is in horrendous poor taste. The sad thing is I can't even say I'm surprised- the vast majority of fans of all clubs are of course decent people, but the elements that aren't are lobotomised primates. Liverpool fans (for example) are still chanting about the Munich disaster which was now 65 years ago. No doubt Man U fans chant about the Hillsboro dead. You can't fix stupid.
O's fans abusing the Fulham "Rent Boy " Song amongst others that have been sung. we arent an Innocent Party in bad taste chants .

Unfortunately every club has their fare share of ‘idiots’ and it’s a fact that they are an element of society and if all football was banned tomorrow, these idiots would just attach themselves to another sport or organisation, they’re not going away I’m afraid.
As others have said the Colchester idiots weren’t actually breaking the law by shouting these vile things and there’s not a great deal the law or stewards can do.
Obviously violence and throwing missiles are different things but I don’t think there were actual altercations between the fans.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:53 pm**

Paul Hague wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:49 pm ...

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My last word in this thread being turned (by you) into one about me but I find it equally disgusting you are tarring me with the same brush when I was NEVER EVEN charged.

The Colchester fans have never even been charged for their actions have they?

Not the best argument you have made to claim the moral high ground

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:09 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:57 pm
Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:08 pm In response to the thread title & ignoring all the garbage posts in-between: they have condemned what happened. But not exactly apologised

Are clubs meant to apologise for songs of bad taste by Idiot fans ? Every club in the country needs to start rolling on this then !

This has nicely reminded me why I stopped posting on here.

The thread title is "Will Colchester apologise". I post the link to Colchester's statement & say it's not exactly an apology. And the response is being mocked for something I neither said or implied.

Think I'll go back to not posting & leave you all to your bickering, willy waving & one-upmanship.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:32 pm**

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Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:21 pm**

Has Embleton come out and said anything about these chants? How the f*ck can he keep quiet in all of this?

For what it's worth, I didn't hear any of this from the other side of the ground. Did anyone else in the ground actually hear it or is just from social media?

I followed a large group of Col Utd fans down to the ground from the station and they were they the usual bunch of drunk/coked up young lads wearing oh so original stone island jumpers and those stupid CP Company coats with the in-built swimming goggles, singing classics like 'Leyton's a shithole, I want to go home' etc but were no harm to anyone. The only trouble was when some silly old sod seemed to want to take them all on and the police had to usher him away.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:21 pm**

Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:09 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:57 pm
Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:08 pm In response to the thread title & ignoring all the garbage posts in-between: they have condemned what happened. But not exactly apologised

Are clubs meant to apologise for songs of bad taste by Idiot fans ? Every club in the country needs to start rolling on this then !
This has nicely reminded me why I stopped posting on here.

The thread title is "Will Colchester apologise". I post the link to Colchester's statement & say it's not exactly an apology. And the response is being mocked for something I neither said or implied.

Think I'll go back to not posting & leave you all to your bickering, willy waving & one-upmanship.

Don't go.
Stay and foe.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:19 pm**

Not sure what Tuffers meant with that post, i wouldn't take it as him mocking you but this is the internet where people love to try and have the last word.

In response to tuffers, yes clubs should apologise for the actions and behaviour of their fans.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:23 pm**

But only if it’s 100% proven that there’s something to apologise for, am I right?

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:24 pm**

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:19 pm Not sure what Tuffers meant with that post, i wouldn't take it as him mocking you but this is the internet where people love to try and have the last word.

In response to tuffers, yes clubs should apologise for the actions and behaviour of their fans.

Like when LOFC released that statement 2 weeks ago condemning the actions of one of our fans that? Oh...

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:05 pm**

Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:09 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:57 pm
Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:08 pm In response to the thread title & ignoring all the garbage posts in-between: they have condemned what happened. But not exactly apologised

Are clubs meant to apologise for songs of bad taste by Idiot fans ? Every club in the country needs to start rolling on this then !
This has nicely reminded me why I stopped posting on here.

The thread title is "Will Colchester apologise". I post the link to Colchester's statement & say it's not exactly an apology. And the response is being mocked for something I neither said or implied.

Think I'll go back to not posting & leave you all to your bickering, willy waving & one-upmanship.

I Guess Im saying Col U have nothing to apologise for ! I'm sorry if you dont know that we like to converse , because our willy waving days are long gone !

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:15 pm**

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:19 pm Not sure what Tuffers meant with that post, i wouldn't take it as him mocking you but this is the internet where people love to try and have the last word.

In response to tuffers, yes clubs should apologise for the actions and behaviour of their fans.

Only if it were hate crime etc or racist/bigoted abuse.
If its because your offended then No .
Its charmless & nasty but its not criminal speech is it ?

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:20 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:05 pm
Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:09 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:57 pm

Are clubs meant to apologise for songs of bad taste by Idiot fans ? Every club in the country needs to start rolling on this then !
This has nicely reminded me why I stopped posting on here.

The thread title is "Will Colchester apologise". I post the link to Colchester's statement & say it's not exactly an apology. And the response is being mocked for something I neither said or implied.

Think I'll go back to not posting & leave you all to your bickering, willy waving & one-upmanship.
I Guess Im saying Col U have nothing to apologise for ! I'm sorry if you dont know that we like to converse , because our willy waving days are long gone !

Of course they have something to apologise for. Whilst it isn’t club officials in the away end singing it and whilst I am sure and or have witnessed many “dodgy” chants at grounds (home and away, opposing fans AND ours), the one one thing you don’t hear EVERY week is supporters singing about dead people in a box and that oversees the mark by a long, long, long, long way.

I see elsewhere TRUMP asking “did this actually happen”.

I had seven different people tell me before the game kicked off it happened and then it was clearly audible mid way through the first half. OK only lasted all of about 10-15 seconds but it happened, no ifs no buts.

About time IMHO that this was / is rightly condemned from ALL sides including our own.

Posted: **Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:23 pm**

Paul Hague wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:20 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:05 pm
Lady Luck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:09 pm

This has nicely reminded me why I stopped posting on here.

The thread title is "Will Colchester apologise". I post the link to Colchester's statement & say it's not exactly an apology. And the response is being mocked for something I neither said or implied.

Think I'll go back to not posting & leave you all to your bickering, willy waving & one-upmanship.
I Guess Im saying Col U have nothing to apologise for ! I'm sorry if you dont know that we like to converse , because our willy waving days are long gone !
Of course they have something to apologise for. Whilst it isn’t club officials in the away end singing it and whilst I am sure and or have witnessed many “dodgy” chants at grounds (home and away, opposing fans AND ours), the one one thing you don’t hear EVERY week is supporters singing about dead people in a box and that oversees the mark by a long, long, long, long way.

I see elsewhere TRUMP asking “did this actually happen”.

I had seven different people tell me before the game kicked off it happened and then it was clearly audible mid way through the first half. OK only lasted all of about 10-15 seconds but it happened, no ifs no buts.

About time IMHO that this was / is rightly condemned from ALL sides including our own.

Did LOFC apologise for someone being arrested
For " Alledged Racist slurs ( Hate Crime )" ?

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