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It’s definitely a multi year plan and as critical as I’ve been sometimes, you do have to trust them. They got us promoted after all.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:47 amWe have a lot of fans who don't do patience - the old ones probably as they want to see Orient at a higher level and are running out of time to see it. Trouble is they tend to have an entitled approach to how the club should be run. They see other teams sign several players and want us to do the same instead of deviating from the plan that we clearly have.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:15 am Then players like Alabi, Harold, Gorman, Dayton, will be out of contract and some will be replaced for better players. Continual improvement. A cycle that will be repeated until we have a promotion capable team without spending too much money. With the kids coming along too things don’t look too bad.
Sure we have weaknesses but I guess we need patience. We are ahead of the plan
What you say makes sense. We may also be able to replace some of the out of contract players in January if the security of a deal is offered to them then. And scaremongering about the budget is just that. The brains trust clearly want to see how this squad does for the time being before making decisions about spending on further personnel. I do think it's flawed if we do not bring in two more players before the end of August to provide more depth, but then I thought we were a quality mobile midfielder short of promotion last season.
Someone told me the other day the Brill had a frozen shoulder and to stop mentioning about him not being present as he'd be back for the next game...Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:06 am Anyone know anything about Brill and Jobis injury?
Slightly worrying that two key players from last season haven’t featured yet with 2 weeks to go?
Whisper at the game last night was tha that Jobi is only gonna play in extreme emergencys ☹Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:06 am Anyone know anything about Brill and Jobis injury?
Slightly worrying that two key players from last season haven’t featured yet with 2 weeks to go?
I agree we will struggle, unless we get in a couple more players. I do get the impression that the owners are taking the view, before forking out any more dosh; 'let's see how we cope for the time being'.Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:56 am As we are not around the training ground every day nobody here can really comment on how good the youngsters are. All I would say is that I presume they are decent and that is why we have not bought one or two more players in. Good players. I assume the management know what they are doing. They have not anyone down so far. If on the other hand, it’s more in hope than expectation and Ling etc think the squad of senior pros is strong enough to get at least a play off spot then in my humble opinion. They are mistaken. Aside from the defence we are weak and we will struggle this year.
Being ‘no weaker’ isn’t great when you’ve gone up a division, is it.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:11 am [quote="Top of the West." post_id=29350 time=<a href="tel:1563402341">1563402341</a> user_id=151]
If you take what most people write on facebook seriously I'd question your judgement tbh, I saw no one on this board, even the most optimistic of posters predicting we would win the league based on that friendly result.
At the moment we are no weaker in the goalkeeping department, No weaker in defence, possibly a man light in wide areas and possibly a "fox in the box" striker with a bit of pace wouldn't go amiss, but squad depth isn't much different to last season and that squad was good enough to win the league and get to the FA trophy final despite some on here wanting to pull out of or throw games in that competition because "the squad isn't big enough to cope and we will get injuries".
We have still time to bring in one or two if we can get the right ones, if not a chance for Shabani, Kyprianou and Sotiriouto step up in the same way the Happe, Koroma and Judd have done in the past.
We were strong enough to go on a run and be top of the league, no reason we can't be top half with this squad nowhere near as "weak" as some would believe.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:11 amBeing ‘no weaker’ isn’t great when you’ve gone up a division, is it.Top of the West. wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:25 pm If you take what most people write on facebook seriously I'd question your judgement tbh, I saw no one on this board, even the most optimistic of posters predicting we would win the league based on that friendly result.
At the moment we are no weaker in the goalkeeping department, No weaker in defence, possibly a man light in wide areas and possibly a "fox in the box" striker with a bit of pace wouldn't go amiss, but squad depth isn't much different to last season and that squad was good enough to win the league and get to the FA trophy final despite some on here wanting to pull out of or throw games in that competition because "the squad isn't big enough to cope and we will get injuries".
We have still time to bring in one or two if we can get the right ones, if not a chance for Shabani, Kyprianou and Sotiriouto step up in the same way the Happe, Koroma and Judd have done in the past.
No Jobi leaves us with nothing in CM outside of the starting players, asking for trouble if true.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:38 am Some interesting comments re Brill and Jobi.
Without trying to start a conspiracy...a few people mentioned that because Brill retired and therefore would have got his pension, he may not be able to play league football again. Wonder if this mysterious injury is a bit of a cover from them trying to sort that. At this stage, it wouldn't surprise me if Sarge is our number one for the first few weeks, at least.
Regarding Jobi...i can understand that he is getting on and wont play as much but its disappointing if he is only emergency cover. When he's on the field he's a key influence, even if he isn't playing that well. It leaves us very short too.
Not true- without McAnuff we have 3 senior central midfielders. Wright, Clay, Gorman.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:41 amNo Jobi leaves us with nothing in CM outside of the starting players, asking for trouble if true.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:38 am Some interesting comments re Brill and Jobi.
Without trying to start a conspiracy...a few people mentioned that because Brill retired and therefore would have got his pension, he may not be able to play league football again. Wonder if this mysterious injury is a bit of a cover from them trying to sort that. At this stage, it wouldn't surprise me if Sarge is our number one for the first few weeks, at least.
Regarding Jobi...i can understand that he is getting on and wont play as much but its disappointing if he is only emergency cover. When he's on the field he's a key influence, even if he isn't playing that well. It leaves us very short too.
Sargeant in goal doesn't fill me with confidence either. As good as our defenders are Brill's experience and leadership are what gets them so organised.
Yes, but with a number 10, not 3 central midfielders. The 10 role is taken up by JMD, Brophy or Sotiriou.
Read that back, only 3 senior pro CMs for all competitions. One suspension or injury then there's no-one to fill the bench.Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:55 amNot true- without McAnuff we have 3 senior central midfielders. Wright, Clay, Gorman.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:41 amNo Jobi leaves us with nothing in CM outside of the starting players, asking for trouble if true.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:38 am Some interesting comments re Brill and Jobi.
Without trying to start a conspiracy...a few people mentioned that because Brill retired and therefore would have got his pension, he may not be able to play league football again. Wonder if this mysterious injury is a bit of a cover from them trying to sort that. At this stage, it wouldn't surprise me if Sarge is our number one for the first few weeks, at least.
Regarding Jobi...i can understand that he is getting on and wont play as much but its disappointing if he is only emergency cover. When he's on the field he's a key influence, even if he isn't playing that well. It leaves us very short too.
Sargeant in goal doesn't fill me with confidence either. As good as our defenders are Brill's experience and leadership are what gets them so organised.
The season hasn't even started yet, and there is, because we have McAnuff.
Even more reason then to bring in a couple of more players.BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:21 amWhisper at the game last night was tha that Jobi is only gonna play in extreme emergencys ☹Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:06 am Anyone know anything about Brill and Jobis injury?
Slightly worrying that two key players from last season haven’t featured yet with 2 weeks to go?