Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Byways1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:11 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:52 pm Has anyone on here worked in the clothing or footwear industry out of curiosity?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:22 pm 30 odd years in retail
Clothing for 20 years sportswear for 5 years
Jewellery for a couple & 2 years in the adult shop trade.

Apart fron the Jewellery trade all others included
Clothing & Footwear . Buying of stock
Costings , buying picking cloths etc.

As well as sales to the general public .

Byways1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:07 pm This cheap labour is a result of the GATT agreement signed in the early 1990s which opened the market up to 4.7 billion people in the Far East to tariff free access. I suggest everyone look at a 10 minute video on YouTube where James Goldsmith explains the future result of this with incredible accuracy.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:41 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:07 pm This cheap labour is a result of the GATT agreement signed in the early 1990s which opened the market up to 4.7 billion people in the Far East to tariff free access. I suggest everyone look at a 10 minute video on YouTube where James Goldsmith explains the future result of this with incredible accuracy.

Watched the first 4 parts, he absolutely destroyed mrs Tyson good and proper. He was like a sage of his time, everything he said came true, everything was spot on.

Go and listen to his interview with frost on the mastrict treaty, he absolutely rips it to shreds and again he was spot on what they were planning, what was going to happen.

Too many people with vested interests to care about us the people.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:49 pm Plenty of interesting Characters Doh.
Ive known a few people who have moved factories
Out to china becuase the end product was cheaper there
than the raw material was here , so while it makes sense as a buisness
It affects industry here .

Just got to look at what amazon & internet shopping has done to the
high street & the Economy here , all well & good to save money on your latest
T-shirt or trainers or book etc , but with no retail there is all the job losses to deal with.

Not just in the retail sector , the delivery drivers , the companies who
produce the packaging for large retail transfers of stock etc.

Theres no wrong or right about it as its free trade & the internet will always win
but sooner or later a tipping point occurs where everything changes.

Imagine maybe in 10 or 15 years years when you no longer buy your car from a dealership
or your foodstuffs from supermarkets but buy direct from manufacturers , farm co -operatives etc ..

Interesting times .

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:19 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:49 pm Plenty of interesting Characters Doh.
Ive known a few people who have moved factories
Out to china becuase the end product was cheaper there
than the raw material was here , so while it makes sense as a buisness
It affects industry here .

Just got to look at what amazon & internet shopping has done to the
high street & the Economy here , all well & good to save money on your latest
T-shirt or trainers or book etc , but with no retail there is all the job losses to deal with.

Not just in the retail sector , the delivery drivers , the companies who
produce the packaging for large retail transfers of stock etc.

Theres no wrong or right about it as its free trade & the internet will always win
but sooner or later a tipping point occurs where everything changes.

Imagine maybe in 10 or 15 years years when you no longer buy your car from a dealership
or your foodstuffs from supermarkets but buy direct from manufacturers , farm co -operatives etc ..

Interesting times .

I have a massive problem with UK job losses when jobs are moved overseas. Upsets me, especially when it affects friends and colleagues. But it’s the pressure to reduce prices, a pair of jeans for £8 in ASDA. Unbelievable when you consider the cut each organisation gets enroute. It reflects too labour costs. Profit is in volume. Peoples cheap clothes is another persons lost job or low pay.

Can’t see it getting better either. On the high street or internet price is king. Ethics cost money and I’m not too sure people want to foot the bill.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:19 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:49 pm Plenty of interesting Characters Doh.
Ive known a few people who have moved factories
Out to china becuase the end product was cheaper there
than the raw material was here , so while it makes sense as a buisness
It affects industry here .

Just got to look at what amazon & internet shopping has done to the
high street & the Economy here , all well & good to save money on your latest
T-shirt or trainers or book etc , but with no retail there is all the job losses to deal with.

Not just in the retail sector , the delivery drivers , the companies who
produce the packaging for large retail transfers of stock etc.

Theres no wrong or right about it as its free trade & the internet will always win
but sooner or later a tipping point occurs where everything changes.

Imagine maybe in 10 or 15 years years when you no longer buy your car from a dealership
or your foodstuffs from supermarkets but buy direct from manufacturers , farm co -operatives etc ..

Interesting times .

I have a massive problem with UK job losses when jobs are moved overseas. Upsets me, especially when it affects friends and colleagues. But it’s the pressure to reduce prices, a pair of jeans for £8 in ASDA. Unbelievable when you consider the cut each organisation gets enroute. It reflects too labour costs. Profit is in volume. Peoples cheap clothes is another persons lost job or low pay.

Can’t see it getting better either. On the high street or internet price is king. Ethics cost money and I’m not too sure people want to foot the bill.

I was the other end of the market.for clothing in my last job .
Never understood the cheap.clothing thing & have never really worn man made clothes
If you see the effect of cheap clothing & its green foot print , its really not good either.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:05 am Dont get me wrong all of it is down to the consumer trying to save scheckles & thinking they are getting a deal , but i worked for Ratner years before they went tits up for his comments about a prawn sandwich lasting longer than there ear rings .

The laugh was he wasnt slagging the cheapness of the people but the fact they were so ready to spend money on absolute tat.

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:19 pmCool story Max.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:13 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:05 am Dont get me wrong all of it is down to the consumer trying to save scheckles & thinking they are getting a deal , but i worked for Ratner years before they went tits up for his comments about a prawn sandwich lasting longer than there ear rings .

The laugh was he wasnt slagging the cheapness of the people but the fact they were so ready to spend money on absolute tat.

I met Gerry many times. Funny guy.

He blamed a colleague for the tat joke. According to Gerry he showed him the speech he was going to give and the colleague said it needed some humour and he therefore included the now infamous joke. The rest is history.

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:27 pm Watched that celebrity Trawlerman on TV last week , rediculous the amount of Cod that were thrown back dead because of quotas , those fish are just left to rot ☹

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:29 pm

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:27 pm Watched that celebrity Trawlerman on TV last week , rediculous the amount of Cod that were thrown back dead because of quotas , those fish are just left to rot ☹

That's the EU for you.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:18 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:29 pm

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:27 pm Watched that celebrity Trawlerman on TV last week , rediculous the amount of Cod that were thrown back dead because of quotas , those fish are just left to rot ☹

That's the EU for you.

As it happens Thor its not just the EU

America has the same sort of quotas in pla e on size for loads of different fish.

Every responsible country has some sort of fishing quotas in place.

Trouble is still laying huge nets that swallow up everything , regardless of net gauge .

The only way to do stuff is to limit the size of trawlers & that is a long way from happening.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:26 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:18 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:29 pm

That's the EU for you.

As it happens Thor its not just the EU

America has the same sort of quotas in pla e on size for loads of different fish.

Every responsible country has some sort of fishing quotas in place.

Trouble is still laying huge nets that swallow up everything , regardless of net gauge .

The only way to do stuff is to limit the size of trawlers & that is a long way from happening.

What about limiting the size of the fishermen?